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Die aartshertog en die spioen: gaan die geskiedenis homself herhaal?

Op 28 Julie 1914 was aartshertog Franz Ferdinand troonopvolger van Oostenryk en sy vrou Sophie op pad na Sarajewo. In Franz-Josef-Strasse word hulle deur ‘n lid van die Swarthand-bende, Gavrilo Pricip, doodgeskiet.

Die Oostenryk-Hongaarse regering blameer Serwië vir die moorde, en om ses uur in die aand van 23 Julie 1914, byna ‘n maand na die moord op die Oostenrykse aartshertog en sy vrou, lewer Baron Giesl von Gieslingen, ambassadeur van die Oostenryk-Hongaarse Ryk ‘n ultimatum aan die Serviese ministerie van buitelandse sake.

Serwië ignoneer dit en op 28 Julie verklaar Oostenryk oorlog teen Serwië. Keiser Wilhelm van Duitsland steun Oostenryk en Rusland skaar hom aan die kant van Serwië. Hierna tree Frankryk en Brittanje ook toe tot die oorlog waaraan uiteindelik 32 lande deelneem en 37 miljoen mense sterf.

‘n Insident wat hom op 4 Maart 2018 in die Britse stad Salibury afspeel, toon merkwaardige ooreenkomste met die gebeure destyds in Sarajewo.

Sergei Skripal en sy dogter Jolia

Op hierdie dag het ‘n voormalige Russiese militêre intelligensiebeampte wat as ‘n dubbele agent vir die Britse intelligensiedienste opgetree het, Sergei Skripal en sy dogter Joelia, in Salisbury gaan stap, maar tydens die wandeling het hulle skielik begin sleg voel en op ‘n bankie langs die straat gaan sit, waar hulle hul bewussyn verloor en met skuim om die mond  deur ‘n dokter en verpleegster gevind is.

Paramedici het hulle hospitaal toe geneem en sedertdien lê hulle daar in ‘n koma. Op hierdie oomblik is daar nog groot twyfel of hulle gaan oorleef.

Die dienste van die weermag se kenners oor chemiese oorlogvoering is ingeroep. Hulle vind spore van ’n dodelike chemiese wapen, bekend as nowitsjok, wat in die 1990’s in Rusland ontwikkel is.

In ’n onderhoud met The Daily Telegraph het een van die Russiese wetenskaplikes wat die stof ontwikkel het, Wil Marzajnof, gesê dat daar geen behandeling vir die gifstof is nie. Wie ook al daardeur aangetas word, sterf  uiteindelik ’n uiters pynlike dood.

Onmiddellik word die vinger na Rusland gewys, aangesien Poetin op ‘n keer aan verslaggewers gesê het die “grootste misdaad wat jy teen jou volk kan pleeg, is verraad…”

Die parallelle lyne

Die is in die verlede al deur verskeie leiers gesê dat oorloë nie sommer toevallig begin nie, maar deeglik vooraf beplan is en dat insidente dan geskep word om die vonk in die kruitvat te kry.

Vergelyk mens die twee voorafgaande insidente is dit opvallend hoeveel ooreenkomste daar is.

  • In Sarajewo was Franz Ferdinand en sy vrou die hoofrolspelers.
  • In Salisbury wad dit weer Sergei en sy dogter.
  • Die aartshertog-hulle is vermoor terwyl hulle op pad was.
  • Net so ook in die geval van Sergei en sy dogter.
  • Oostenryk rig ‘n ultimatum aan Serwië, maar dié ignoreer dit.
  • Op sy beurt rig Brittanje weer ‘n ultimatum aan Rusland, wat dit ook ignoreer.
  • Dan verklaar Oostenryk oorlog teen Serwië en so breek die Eerste Wêreldoorlog uit.
  • Die vraag is net of dit nou weer die geval gaan wees? Dit wil byna so lyk, want:

Op die oomblik is al die elemente teenwoordig vir ‘n moontlike konfrontasie tussen die Ooste en die Weste.

Brittanje se eerste minister, Theresa May, het die wiel aan die rol gesit met haar ultimatum aan die Russiese regering om binne 24 uur ’n bevredigende antwoord op die beskuldigings te gee, of anders sou “teenmaatreëls” volg.

Beide Poetin en sy minister van buitelandse sake, Sergei Lawrof, het die beskuldigings met minagting verwerp en die ultimatum geïgnoreer.

Die dag daarna kondig May haar teenmaatreëls aan: Alle kontak op hoë vlak met die Russiese regering is voorlopig opgeskort, 23 Russiese diplomate (wat volgens May eintlik spioene is) word die land uitgeskop, en die Veiligheidsraad van die Verenigde Nasies (VN) is byeengeroep om die krisis te bespreek.

Die Russe skop op hul beurt weer 23 Britse diplomate uit, en verander nie hul gedrag nie.

Maria Zakharova, ‘n Russiese minister van buitelandse sake, het gesê Brittanje se planne om Rusland te sanksioneer, insluitende sy besluit om 23 Russiese diplomate uit die VK te verdryf, was buitengewoon gevaarlik. “Die Britse Eerste Minister se verklaring is ‘n volkome kranksinnige beskuldiging teenoor die Russiese Federasie, ons hele land, ons hele volk,” het sy gesê.

Sy het Theresa May ook gewaarsku om Vladimir Poetin se militêre mag in gedagte te hou.

Op 1 Maart het Poetin gespog met sy nuwe supersoniese missiel wat 20 keer teen die snelheid van klank kan vlieg, en hy het sy Westerse mededingers aagesê om daarvan kennis te neem. Hierdie missiel is op pad na sy teiken, in staat om enige aanslag van ander misiele af te weer.

In gedeklassifiseerde dokumente word 38 Britse dorpe en stede genoem wat Rusland se eerste doelwitte sal wees.

En dit tesame met nog 70 teikens van militêre basisse, kommunikasie sentrums, vliegvelde en ander sleutelinfrastrukture.

Die dodetol in so ‘n  aanval sal na raming 7,7 miljoen Britte in die stede beloop, gebaseer op die grootte van kernwapens in Vladimir Poetin se arsenaal.

Intussen is Rusland en Brittanje se verhouding op ‘n mespunt gebalanseer.

Die Daily Star Online het ‘n scenario gegee van die verskriklike gevolge op dag een van die oorlog tussen Brittanje en Rusland.

Londen sal die swaarste getref word in ‘n poging om die hart van die Verenigde Koninkryk uit te ruk, die stad sal binne ‘n radius van 3.8 kilometer verwoes word en 950 000 mense sal dadelik sterf.

In ‘n radius van 120 kilometer sal die ontploffing deur Groter-Londen gevoel word, geboue sal in duie stort en wydverspreide skade veroorsaak. Terwyl daar in ‘n 320- kilometer radius mense so ver as Crystal Palace en Brent Cross, derdegraadse brandwonde sal opdoen.

Die insident op 4 Maart in Salisbury, Engeland, sou onder normale omstandighede skaars voorbladnuus gewees het; maar toe kry dit skielik momentum, eskaleer heeltemal buite verhouding en plaas die ganse mensdom feitlik oornag in sy grootste krisis sedert die einde van die 2de Wêreldoorlog.

Die hernieude spanning tussen Brittanje en die Kremlin het weer onmiddellik vrese vir ‘n Derde Wêreldoorlog laat ontstaan.

Die Mandela-volgelinge speel ook die spel

Ons wil nie spoke opjaag nie, maar sedert die dag van die ANC se onstaan het daar net te veel dinge gebeur wat as toeval beskryf kan word. Ons noem net ‘n paar daarvan:

  1. Op 6 April 1652 land Jan van Riebeeck met sy drie seilskepies in Tafelbaai.En dis seker nie toeval dat Jacob Zuma op 6 April vanjaar in die hof moet verskyn vir my misdade nie? Is dit miskien ‘n aanduiding dat hy vryskot daarvan gaan afkom?

    Umkhonto we Sizwe
  2. Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) word gestig op 16 Desember 1961 (presies 123 na die Slag van Bloedrivier en ook die jaar waarin Suid-Afrika ‘n republiek word. Op 16 Desember in 1961 begin die ANC se gewapende stryd met Mandela as opperbevelhebber van sy militêre vleuel, Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK), wat beteken “Spies van die nasie”. In die 18 maande daarna het Umkhonto we Sizwe 200 dade van sabotasie gepleeg, o.m. in Johannesburg, Port Elizabeth en Durban.
  3. Op 31 Augustus 1936 word die Bantoe- Trust en -Grond Wet, ingestel; en grond van hierdie wetgewing is ongeveer 87% van die landoppervlakte vir die Blankes en 13% vir die swartes afgesonder. En nou, 105 jaar later, het die Nasionale Vergadering (NV) ’n mosie aanvaar om die bal aan die rol te a sit om die eiendomsklousule in die Grondwet — art. 25 — te wysig om voorsiening te maak vir die onteiening van daardie ‘gesteelde’ grond. Ramaphosa het beslis nie om dowe neute besluit dat die komitee se verslag juis op 31 Augustus vanjaar ingedien moet word nie!

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Pieter

Dankie oom Adriaan voor die artikel. Dis net zoals ons dit zien. Daar is geen enkel bewijs dat die Russen betrokke was in die vergiftiging. Die media wijs altijd met die vinger naar Rusland. Die media herhaal dit keer op keer dat de meest voor de hand liggende dader van de vergiftiging, de Russen wel moeten zijn, echter zonder dat er bewijs is. Hoelang zal die Russische beer nog toe laat dat hij geplaag wordt?
Ek het baie respek voor Poetin en wat hij doen voor Rusland. Echter is dit moeilijk om te bepaal waar hij staan. Is hij ook een pion in die groot geldmagte? Loop hij uiteindelik ook mee in die pad van die edomiete? Die tijd sal ons leer. Dit is nou baie noodsaaklik dat ons nuchter en waaksaam bly.

akarta

first of all ww1 and ww2 where heavily preplanned by the High Lords of Britain, even with recent event look at the trump piss gate dossier where does it come from?
lets look at Ukraine coup main backers the UK
lets look at the encircling of russia, was this not done to germany before ww2?
let zoom back & look at ZAR, remember the 2004 Equatorial Guinea coup d’état attempt the main handler behind it was Mark Thatcher (who was given a 20K fine here in CT ZAR)
lets look the EFF and its main backer Lord Robin Renwick.
mandela 46664 charity not registered here first, its registered in the UK first. (remember the statue of mandela in Parliament Square, London)
are we not apart of the commonwealth? (which is one of the largest voting blocks in the UN)
who are we trying to fool, let look at our own past, you think Britain was happy that we declared our selfs a republic? for the 2nd time?
look at Rhodesia who betrayed them>?

theses British high lords are the master of warfare (america has been hijacked some time ago and are new comers to imperialism, which was granted by the Queen)

here is a document i created a while back it list all the wars the UK has been involved with for the past 400years (please do count all the year of peace where they are not at war, u’ll be surprised, to say the least)
Britian At War with the World.xlsx
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5zHxrQo8C0qbEhwRGdhUjdGdjA

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=larouche+british+empire Lyndon LaRouche has done some of the best research on the british empire
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5402339/Tony-Blair-links-George-Soros.html

akarta

our first main enemy is the british empire aka the commonwealth, our 2nd is the Vatican (where do you think the idea of wealth redistribution comes from? go read the papal bulls from the turn of the century)
and in turn catholicism and any form of evangelicalism, do you rest on a sunday?? then your under then mark of the Papal system. (has and did change times and dates “And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding: (Dan 2:21 KJV)”
do you attend one of theses churches listed on World Council of Churches https://www.oikoumene.org/en/member-churches

let actually get on the same page.

our 3rd enemy are ideologies.

akarta

(part 1)
here are some words from my great grandfather which are found in a book titled Christian endeavor in all lands; a record of twenty-five years of progress; the story of a great religious movement which has spread over all the earth from a small beginning in America (1906)

ONE of the most romantic and interesting chapters
in the annals of the first twenty-five years of the
Christian Endeavor Society is the story of the
development of the societies in the Boer prison
camps in St. Helena, Ceylon, Bermuda, and
Portugal. So thoroughly did the Society seem to meet the
religious needs of these expatriated warriors, so complete and
thorough was their organization in spite of the difficulties
they had to overcome, and so large results in the way of missionary
activities and the evangelization of Africa have flowed
from their devoted Christian lives in the prison camps,
that the story will always be an incentive to heroism and re- ligious zeal. I am indebted for these facts largely to the
Rev. Charles F. Mijnhardt, who was the president of the
Christian Endeavor union among the prisoners on the island
of St. Helena, and who obtained from his own observation
there, and from accounts obtained from returned Boers in ttie other camps, the details which are here given.
The societies were started even before the prisoners
reached St. Helena, for while they were encamped in Simons
Town near Cape Town, a society of ninety-one members had
been organized.

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(part 2) But the removal of the prisoners to the various islands compelled a reorganization when they reached their destination. They met with many difficulties, since many of the Boers had known nothing of the Society before they reached the prison camp. Some thought the pledge was too strict; others objected to the singing of hymns which were not based on David’s Psalms, or prescribed by the synod of
Dordrecht. So keen was the party feeling, indeed, that some went so far as to aver that the society, although having an outward semblance of religion, really had in view a political object, inasmuch as it was suspected to be the intention of the Endeavorers on their return to South Africa to choose from
their number the president of the Transvaal and the members of the Volksraad.
But these strange misapprehensions were soon removed, and “they began to learn,” says Mr. Mijnhardt, “that the Christian Endeavor Society was the one form of Christian service subject to the church, that was needed in South Africa and in the prison camps as well. We Endeavorers thank God for our banishment, because it has brought us to know the value of consecrated Christian service.”
For eight months the St. Helena society had meetings in the open air, often with the
rain beating in the faces of the worshippers and the wind making it almost impossible to hear the speakers.
Afterwards they managed to rig up a “tin shanty” composed of biscuit-tins and aloe poles. Those who know the aloe will not recommend it for strength or durability. It is really a soft pulpy mass, surrounded by a thin covering of wood; but it was the only material available, and many a time this little shanty rang with the praise of God.

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(part 3) it was the only material available, and many a time this little shanty rang with the praise of God.
As more prisoners came, more societies were needed to give a chance for the expression of the Christian life in word
and deed. They had pledge cards printed at St. Helena, but never seemed to have enough, the members came so fast. The first societies were at the Deadwood camp, and were made up of men from the Transvaal. But after a time an- other large camp, formed mostly of Free Staters, was established
at Broad Bottom. Then they formed two local unions, one in each of these two great camps, which were about seven miles apart, while a district Christian Endeavor union united the two; and the members visited each other alternately, once in two or three months, to discuss the general business of the
union.
A convention was once held midway between the two camps, though it was very difficult to get permission for the large number who wished to attend. But, in all, 386 Endeavorers from both camps attended this convention, and discussed very much the same topics as Endeavorers in England or America-missions and the Quiet Hour, and the relation of Endeavor to the church, and what more they could do for their unconverted companions, and other similar topics.
In April, 1900, the first contingent was taken to St. Helena, and two years later it was found that there were eleven societies in the Deadwood camp and eight in Broad Bottom, nineteen in all, with a total membership of nearly a thousand. By this time they had managed to procure an un- used cooking-shed, which, having been properly patched up and also enlarged, would hold about two hundred. This they
called “Excelsior Hall.”

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(part 3) Many a glorious meeting they had in it. The different societies all met there on different evenings of the week, and from Monday night to Saturday night the hall was never empty between six P. M. and nine P. M., for one meeting was scarcely over before another lot would good-naturedly squeeze in, receiving a warm hand-shake of welcome at the door. Let me here quote a few of Mr. Mijnhardt’s ardent
words.
“O, how we learned to know and love one another during those years of captivity! Once—it was midnight of the old year —we Endeavorersgathered in our hall for a bit of prayer and praise. We shed tears, many of us, but not at the thought of our loved ones’ being so far away from us. No, we thought: ‘Alas, these glorious meetings wil) one day have to come to an end ; we shall have to separate^ and go out into
the cold world to fight alone. Here we have so much sweet fellowship, such concord, such unity.’
“Just think of it; amidst all the hardships attendant on the life of a prisoner of war, amidst all that one naturally misses and even finds necessary, we are yet saddened at the thought of having eventually to part from one another. Such is the love of Christ shed abroad in the hearts of His children!
”Apart from our weekly meeting, we had a short prayermeeting of half an hour every morning at 6 and sometimes, according to changes in camp regulations, at 6.30. “I am sure that that early prayer-meeting helped most of all to make our society a blessing. Those who attended could always be reckoned on, and were always the most faithful members. We had a different subject to pray for every day of the week, for example, Sunday, the church; Monday, the spiritual life; Wednesday, missions; Thursday, Christian Endeavor societies, etc.

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(part 5) We appointed a leader for each day, and many a young convert there learned to pray and
speak in public for the first time. O, the solemnity of that quiet half-hour, as we sang upon our knees,
” ‘I believe God answers prayer;
I am sure God answers prayer;
I have proved God answers prayer,
Glory to His name!’
“We would come forth strengthened and refreshed. In those meetings we often spoke of the importance of the ‘Quiet Hour,’ and many a one would go back to his hut or tent to spend another hour with God and his Bible before commencing the duties of the day.”
We are also told that a “Lending-Hand Workers’ Genootschap” was formed, meaning a society where different kinds of articles were made by the Endeavorers, such as penholders, bone brooches, boxes, etc.
These were sent to the colony and sold for fifty-eight pounds. “If, therefore, a young man got up in the meeting and waxed eloquent on missions,” we are told, “wishing he could fly that he might be there at once, we merely asked him to come and prove his sincerity by lending a hand at the turning-lathe or by polishing a piece of wood.” The Endeavorers also erected a cafe, whose sign-board bore this legend in Dutch: ‘CAFE, RESTAURANT, AND STORE’
In aid of the suffering women and children In South Africa.”
Here they sold tea, coffee, and cake at a penny, such articles, also, as cofifee, sugar, and milk, and cleared thirty-five pounds.
Through the sale of envelopes and stamps thirty-seven pounds more were raised for the widows’ and orphans’ fund.
They also conceived the idea of erecting an orphanage on their return to South Africa, to be called the “Christian Endeavor Orphanage of Transvaal and Orangia.”

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(part 6) The spirit of this plan has been largely carried out in the support of an existing orphanage near Johannesburg.
In the prison camps of Ceylon the same zeal and enthusiasm were manifested as in St. Helena. Here ten societies were formed with a membership of eight hundred. Once in three months they were allowed to have a united meeting, when all the societies met to discuss the subject for that week.
“What a wonderful sight it was,” writes one of the number, “to see so large a number of zealous Endeavorers and to hear eight hundred voices roaring out a hymn like so many can- non! No wonder that one felt like another man after such a meeting. Often I would hear some one say: ‘How the time simply flew!’ ‘For my part he could have continued as long again, and talked another hour.’ ‘How beautifully we worked together!’ ” Many of the prisoners in Ceylon had but few educational advantages, and great pains were taken to supply such deficiencies.Here, as on St. Helena, bearded men thought it no shame to attend school, learning their texts as any boy would. The literature committee of the union distributed books, and saw to it that they were read; and most of the Endeavorers were eager to attend the dayschool and the Sunday-school. In one of the classes the question was asked, “Who discovered America?” The reply came promptly, “Saul, sir.” “Let this not be taken as a standard of our intelligence, however,” writes one of the prisoners,”since many English soldiers, believed, as one of them said to
us, ‘We thought yous fellows was all black.’ “

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(part 7) A boys’ home was established by the Endeavorers, where
orphans and neglected ones were taken in and cared for. In the same hut the “Albion printing-press” afterwards turned out a little weekly paper called De Strever (The Endeavorer) Every evening family prayers were held by the Endeavorers, and every morning there was an early prayer-meeting.
A little Christian Endeavor paper was also published, but the societies were so scattered on different islands that they had no opportunity for a convention, which proved so helpful in other camps.
To Portugal a thousand men were taken from Delagoa Bay, all of whom when they started, save about thirty-five, were sick. Some died on the way to Portugal, and there were comparatively few earnest Christians among those that reached the prison camp. These commenced a prayer-meeting, which was held twice a week. Very soon, we are told, “God’s Sprit began to convict of sin; many turned from their evil ways; and the first night as many as seventy gave themselves to God.”
In the early morning one could hear the men earnestly praying among the rocks. An Endeavor society was formed, and eighty joined at once. The society worked under great diffi- culties, for the members had no convenient place in which to gather; so they resorted to the rocks.
But this gave them a fine opportunity for personal work, and it was quite usual to see the members of the various societies conversing with the unconverted in quiet nooks. The social committee did good and effective work in welcoming new arrivals or visitors from one of the other camps. Little more than a month had passed when the 80 had become 183.

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(part 8) This was in the camp at Peniche. Another one was at Caldas da Rainha. Here there were 70 young men who might be reached, and the society began with a membership of 25, but the Endeavorers did not rest until they had captured 64 out of the 70. Some of the members who had mastered the Portuguese language preached Christ among the inhabitants. After a little more than a year the Boers,
men, women, and children, bade farewell to the shores of Portugal. Many of the Portuguese had become sincerely Attached to them, and bitter tears were shed. One man brought a Portuguese lady with him, had the bans published in one of the Dutch churches of Johannesburg on reaching home, and
now is happily married. Some women were transported to this camp, together with their fathers and brothers; and more than one little romance which happily ended can be traced back to the prison camps of Portugal and the Bahamas. But the sequel to this story of Christian Endcavor in the Boer camp is the most remarkable of their captivity to arouse a wonderful missionary spirit among them such as had never been known in South Africa before. Missionary subjects were favorites in the Christian Endeavor meetings in prison.
Though they had exceedingly little money, a tithe, often a fifth, of what they earned by whittling out bone Christian Endeavor badges and other trinkets was set apart for missionary use. In the societies in Portugal a missionary meeting was held once a month, and twelve declared themselves ready to become missionaries on their return. In St. Helena 60 volunteered for missfonary service while in camp, and altogether 175 young men dedicated themselves to the service of God as missionaries wherever He should send them.

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(part 9) The whole attitude of many toward the natives was changed during their imprisonment. One bright young fellow said during a meeting, “I used to try to ride over the little Kaffir boys on our farm with my horse, and once I actually did override one; but, if ever I should meet that little boy again, I shall take him with me on the horse, and tell him how Jesus loves him.” “I unhesitatingly assert,” writes Mr.
Mijnhardt, “that the Christian Endeavor movement among our prisoners contributed largely towards making these men realize their responsibility towards the heathen. Missions had with us a most prominent place in the society.
Our subjects were often missionary subjects; but, more than that, we began to do something for missions.”
Sixteen young Kaffir boys who had been captured with the Boers were transported to St. Helena. They were taught to read, and soon they began to pray in their own language in the meetings. We can well imagine that “it had a tremendous meaning for the young Endeavorer who had not much enthusiasm for missions to go to those Kaffirs, and read and pray with them.”
The mission-study classes, a missionary manual-labor society, which sold its products for eighty pounds, the missionary books that were read, and the missionary collection-box which was often passed, all had
a great influence in stimulating the missionary zeal. On their return to South Africa these 175 young men began to fit themselves by hard study for missionary work.

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(part 10) The missionary institute for their training was established at Worcester, Cape Colony; and the Drostdy, which used to be the residence of the local magistrate, or Landdrost, during the time of the Dutch possession of the colony, was purchased for ten thousand pounds by the representatives of the Dutch churches.
The young men in the institute, however, do not rely upon the gifts of the churches altogether, but spend as many hours in manual labor each day to support themselves as they spend in study. A number of these will not be able to do much in the way of mental development, we are told, being already too old, and not having had educational advantages when young.
But all can do something for the natives of Africa, and some of those who could not go as educated missionaries have gone to the far interior as missionary farmers.”
The report of the proceedings of the opening of this mission school ends with these glowing words of good cheer: “So the proceedings of the never-to-be-forgotten days came to an end, days which are the beginning of what we believe to be a new epoch in the mission history of our beloved Dutch Reformed Church. That a light may have been lit at Worcester that will penetrate into the dark heart of Dark Africa ever remains our earnest prayer. To the Lord be thanks, to Him the honor, from Him the expectation.”

remember you are a sinner just like everyone else volk, the only difference is does one believe and follow the Jesus Christ & Our Heavily Lord GOD’s LAW.

Elsie

1. Akarta, wat wil jy nou eintlik sê? Wil jy nou vir ons vertel dat ‘missionary work’, die oprig van christelike ‘societies’ die antwoord is. Hierdie-
“that the Christian Endeavor Society was the one form of Christian service subject to the church, that was needed in South Africa and in the prison camps as well. We Endeavorers thank God for our banishment, because it has brought us to know the value of consecrated Christian service.”

Christelike diens en broederliefde het het ons in hierdie gemors beland en het ons ons land laat weggee.

Ek is throroughly gatvol vir ‘pious’ christelike dribble. Die goed hier in ons land is ons VYANDE en ek haat hulle met ‘n volkome haat die wat teen YHWH se wil is (ps 139)

Om te wil handjies vashou met heidene en liedjies te sing en te wil ‘endeavour ‘om almal te bekeer is teen YHWH se wil.

“Such is the love of Christ shed abroad in the hearts of His children!”

as ek dus ‘n heiden bekeer word hy my “liefde in christus”?

En hierdie rubbish-
“I shall take him with me on the horse, and tell him how Jesus loves him.” “I unhesitatingly assert,” writes Mr.
Mijnhardt, “that the Christian Endeavor movement among our prisoners contributed largely towards making these men realize their responsibility towards the heathen.”

Ek het GEEN maar GEEN verantwoordelikeheid teenoor heidene nie. Hulle moet net in toom gehou word. YHWH het hom heiden gemaak en heiden moet hy bly. Deut 4.
Die wet en gebooie is aan Israel gegee om rege en geregtigheid op die wêreld te laat geskied en nie een of ander afgewaterde beskouing van Paulus se idee van die wet nie.

akarta

ok firstly this phase has already happened, am not calling for this, so you read in to what i pasted very incorrectly. to start with.
and am only going to address one issue i take with you…

where on this earth did you pick up the use of using the word YHWH’s??? are you apart of the Sacred Name Movement, cause this is not scriptural, your forefathers did not use this word, nor do any of the early protestant’s bibles translations (NONE).
you then go mock the apostle Paul……

back to the word YHWH, you use a name that even the Jew’s dare not even use, and which was using in the occult.

please whats actually going on with you, where did you first use this word or get the idea to use it, cause its not of your own making, you’ve copied someone else, THINKING YOU ARE SOMEHOW BETTER? or HOLIER? than me for using it?

to your 2nd post.
i agree on your last paragraph “Tatto, eat pork, gay embrace, do not keep sabbaths. ”

3rd post, where you and me disagree, Jesus Christ is the WORD of GOD and you think by using this magical yhwh word you some how skip going pass the gate keeper?

John 10:9
9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

John 14:6
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

i suggest you go study your the bible alittle more, He is the Alpha and the Omega.

and your a woman commenting on scripture to me a Man, hello it is only me who has a problem with this?. cause your corrupting the scriptures with your thoughts which are not your own.

akarta

to your 4th post, some how i doubt your apart of his chosen, your doctrine will firstly need to be corrected on your own accord.

you think a black zulu whom practices & believes in their ancestral worship and at the same time claims to practice or believe in the Holy Bible is a Christian? to me that a catholic.
and somehow you think GOD with HIS WORD, that worketh through HIS HOLY SPIRIT, has not picked people from all groups & all colours? are we meant to make such mental jumps in reasoning that is not so? amazing seeing that long ago in the mist of the past, that some of our forefathers a 1000 or 1500years ago where not pagan’s? you actually think your so great?
i personally am not using my imagination, in aid to help me think am better than everyone else, daily i realize am a sinner, and daily i have to kill my ego.
let me state his
We BOER thank God for our punishment & trials & tribulations, because it will bring us to know the value of consecrated Christian service.” (which is what is needed) to humble ourselves before our LORD.
maybe the lose of all our world possession is needed….. to make us realize what is important. and for us to repent? (when i read the Bible, the above is what normally happens every few generation to his chosen people, the Hebrews)

also if you wish to be judge by GOD’s Law’s, and not through the Grace of Jesus Christ, you will be judged accordingly & You will be found guilty, & rightfully so.

Elsie

2.En hierdie?
“But, in all, 386 Endeavorers from both camps attended this convention, and discussed very much the same topics as Endeavorers in England or America-missions and the Quiet Hour, and the relation of Endeavor to the church, and what more they could do for their unconverted companions, and other similar topics.”

Vir die christen gaan alles oor die kerk, hulle christus en hulle naaste. Die God van Israel verwag dat die kontrak tussen hom en Sy kinders gehandhaaf word.

Very soon, we are told, “God’s Sprit began to convict of sin; many turned from their evil ways; and the first night as many as seventy gave themselves to God.”

die christen het nie ‘n clue wat sondes is nie. die enigste sonde wat vir hulle dood straf moet kry is om nie jou naaste lief te hê nie, maar verder is alles ok. Tatto, vark eet, gay omhels, sabbate nie hou nie. ELKEEN wat YHWH se eie woorde verag terwille van wat saulus vir die kerk geskryf het is my vyand. dus al die 56 miljoen ( rapport) christene is en bly my aartsvyande.

Elsie

3. remember you are a sinner just like everyone else volk, the only difference is does one believe and follow the Jesus Christ & Our Heavily Lord GOD’s LAW.
Weer rubbish. Geen persoon wat YHWH se wet en sabbate onderhou is ‘n sondaar nie. kerk liegstories om jesus te bo YHWH se woord te stel. as jy YHWH se wet en sabbate hou is jy geregverdig en sondeloos.

Elsie

4. Ook, jou skrywe het op die aarde NIKS te doen wat in die artikel staan nie. Jy wil maar net jou christelike doktrine hier kom verkondig. Vir wat? Sodat ons maar weer terug staan sodat die heiden met die christelike wrapping ons land en vryheid vat? Sodat julle christene julle swart christen broers wil oortuig om in liefde saam te leef? Hy wil nie, hy sal nie en sal ooit ophou totdat ons volk alles verloor het nie.

Vir ander- YHWH is ten volle in beheer en alles sal uitspeel soos dit moet. Dat die lyke gaan ophoop. dat die geld min gaan raak en dat jou eiendom gesteel gaan word is ‘n feit soos ‘n koei. maar soos JCronje geskryf het- die regverdige het honderde beloftes en almal is waarheid en almal is vir YHWH se oogapples en Sy gunsgenote. Let them come- skrik hulle boggerol.

Johann Cronje

Adriaan,
Die ooreenkomste wat jy uitlig is baie opvallend en dit laat mens tog wonder of dit dui op ander moontlikhede. Hoe skakel dit egter in met Siener se verklaring oor die uitbreek en verloop van die derde wêreldoorlog, veral m.b.t., watter lande volgens hom die begin van WO3 sal veroorsaak?
Die klimaat vir WO3 is baie gunstig maar dalk word ons nog vir ‘n wyle gespaar !

Johann Cronje

Adriaan,
Ek weet nie presies wat om van “akarta” se elle lange “plasing” te maak nie. Dit is wel so dat Engeland se betrokkenheid verantwoordelik was vir al die boere se elendes en dat Engeland volgens Siener nog die swaar straf daarvoor sal kry. Die ander deel van sy lange plasing het te doen met die “Christian endeavor in all lands “ (evangelisasie pogings” ) en dan ook “our 3rd enemy are ideologies.”.
Die evangelisasie pogings in Afrika om die “LIG” te bring tot die “DUISTERNIS” het uiteindelik geen vrug opgelewer het nie, ten spyte van al die miljarde rande wat jarelank d.m.v. die kollektebordjies en kerkdonasies vir die doel vermors is. Dit was skynbaar godsdienstige ideologieë wat die christen gelowige niks in die sak gebring het nie? Steeds sien die liberaliste en “gelowiges” dit nog nie raak nie! Die ideologie was onsuksesvol want steeds word christengelowiges deur die steeds donker en bose Afrika voor die voet uitgemoor en vertrap uit haat en begeertes uit.
Vandag het Afrika steeds die bose hart wat in al die tyd geen positiewe verandering teenoor die witman se onbaatsugtige pogings van hulp en welsyn getoon het nie. Al die saad wat gesaai is, het op droë rots geval. Die enkele sade wat in die grond geval het het ‘n droë boom wat vrug moes dra laat opkom maar die enkele vrot vrugte lê onder die boom en die insekte wei daarop. Ek haal aan uit die biografie van Livingston – “David Livingstone enthusiastically travelled to Africa where he strengthened his ideals of becoming a Christian missionary, searching for a greater scientific discovery, improved commerce and the abolition of slavery. However, in Africa, he realised the difficulty of making converts to Christianity. During the 1840s he gained “ONLY ONE” real convert to Christianity.”

akarta

the only reason i pasted was concerning the historical aspect, after reading the part where they THANKED GOD for there Banishment, i needed to share it as is, not steal a little part here and there and make it my own, their work has been done, look at how many churches sprung up after they where released. and yes seeds fall by the way side, many grow in to nothing. what am getting at is the time that cometh we should be thankful for & cause it goes and shows their true colours. but we must be realistic in our thinking, there will be some black tribes that side with us, is it so hard to understand this? look at how the first Republic was created, it was not completely by our own merit did we not side with some black tribes? did some black tribes not help us defeat the ndebele or the zulu’s or the tswana. are we this unrealistic in our thinking that we dont actually know our actual history and the complex dynamics of this whole land?

akarta

also one more thing, i just want to see how deeply are people thinking out and examining what is to take place. let now imagine for a second ww3 in full swing, the usa is in full retreat from the middle east, their main base in djibouti, has been over run, they retreat to niger which has 3 AFRICOM drone bases in it already. (this is around the area where we will meet them), turkey has now managed to to-gather together the other muslim nations, to go against Israel and against Europe (in the real sense) Open declaration of war has finally been declared, (https://www.memri.org/reports/turkish-newspaper-close-president-erdogan-calls-form-joint-islamic-army-fight-israel) britain & france now join side with china, the nato alliance broken & betrayed, russia after being surround & provoked finally now moves on towards europe (cause many nations to be divided within their own borders of who to side with), the US army forces supply lines are to speared to thin, for any real involvement against the turks and the arab’s, refugee fleeing via ship now start pouring in to the karoo, you going to tell me that these “Uitlander” who are our spiritual brothers and sisters are not going to have liberty/freedom? or are they along with us going to build a new republic our 3rd and final republic. do you also think that around this time, that their will be no black tribes working with us, or indians or coloured’s or that people whom where called liberals just acouple years before & who have survived are not going to change side’s?
the reality of this world is it is complex and always has been. to see things in such one dimension is fool hardy to say the least.

akarta

also what type of new cities will be built, are we going to use the old grid style or are we going to build circular style cities.

are we going to create water canal’s starting from the atlantic that plough through the land all the way to the pacific? and then kris-cross vertical to other points inland, where there are other water ways? for transporting good’s between cities?

are we going to build more nuclear power station.
what are some of theses cities going to manufacture?

what will our constitution be?
will our schooling systems going to copy the current bavaria schooling system model or are we going to use the Triumvirate learning system.

is Heidelberg going to be our capital once again?
are we going to allow television? (how much technology that we current use is going to be used then?)
what will be the main bible in this nation, cause for me its the KJB and no other (None come close to it)
i have so many types of different questions to ask, which i dont see many asking and preparing for. everyone seems to be focusing on the outline of this grand picture. and very few are focusing on the whole picture. we know certain key events to focus on, but what about the others which are unseen?

i myself am being very realistic, i dont assume this is going to be a paradise.
and if you want such a thing, must you not build it? or is GOD going to do our dirty work for us, without us humbly ourselves first and then coming to the table firstly?
hmmm questions questions. and more of what i wish to say i can not in this format.

akarta

Adriaan please take a look at https://archive.org/search.php?query=Nicolaas%20van%20Rensburg&sin=TXT
found some items on die siener

Pieter

En zo wordt de ene na de andere Europese stad overgenomen door die kaalvreters, verwoesters, sprinkhanen, addergeslag….

http://xandernieuws.punt.nl/content/2018/04/Moorden-en-misdaden-Londen-stijgen-tientallen-procenten-onder-moslim-burgemeester

E M

Malema: “Ons is hier om die spies (Winnie Mandela) wat geval het op te tel en aan te hou veg. Massas mense moet haar begrafnis bywoon.”
Begrafnis is 14 April. Kyk na 18 April.

Dirk Albers

E M, ek het ook my ore gespits toe malema daardie uitlatings gemaak het ! Die meerderheid blankes in hierdie land, dink nog steeds hulle deel met ousies en tuinboois. Hulle is in vir n baie wrede ontnugtering. En ons mag NOOIT vergeet nie, dat agter al hierdie sataniese politici, van AL die kleure en geure, sit satan se TOP generaals. En die ” sendelinge, ” wat nog steeds Liewe Jesus aan hierdie barbare probeer opdis, se nekke gaan nog RUK !

E M

Dirk, Farrakhan is ook oppad, en hordes swart radikale van regoor Afrika, veral Nigerië, Botswana en Zimbabwe. Hulle wil ook nou “hulle land en besittings” hê wat gesteel was van hulle, ja al die grond en eiendom van blanke Suid Afrikaners. Wil voorkom asof die aasvoëls van regoor Afrika gereed maak om toe te sak op die karkas. Nation of Islam se verklaring,

“And the wicked ones who have stolen the land and the wealth of Africa must eventually give it all back or it shall be taken back by God and the people who refuse to let that heartbeat of true liberation, freedom, justice and equality die. She lives and the struggle continues until total victory.”

https://www.noi.org/winnie-madikizela-mandela-statement/

Johann Cronje

Akarta,
You said, that it is foolhardy to think “that around this time, that there will be no black tribes working with us, or Indians or colored’s or that people whom where called liberals just a couple years before & who have survived are not going to change side’s?”
MY COMMENT to you – The true fact is – Communion with, or being yoked together with foreign races/nations against Yahweh’s law, has proven never to benefit the true Israel nations and neither has it had any advantage for the white “boer” nation. Acts against Yahweh’s will has certainly angered HIM. It will never be blessed by Yahweh. It is not what He wants for His people and neither does the true “boer” nation. No matter which foreign seed sides with the “boers” in “goodwill”, they cannot and will never be part countryman(stamgenote) of the nation. The rainbow concoction of mixed races is not the will of God Yahweh but the foolish dreams of mankind as a result of Christian doctrine. Only the same, original seed of our Israelite/European brothers and sisters (countryman/stamgenote) could be regarded as part of us. Ezekiel 34:29 – 31 – 29 – “I will establish for them (Israel) a renowned planting place, and they will not again be victims of famine in the land, and they will not endure the insults of the nations anymore. 30″Then they will know that I, YAHWEH their God, am with them, and that they, the house of Israel, are My people,” declares YAHWEH GOD. 31″As for you, My sheep, the sheep of My pasture, you are “men” (Adam/white), and I am your God,” declares YAHWEH.”
Refer Adriaan’s comment- “Dit gaan met die tyd, maar almal is hier eensgesind en werk hier eendragtig saam……………………. nou Een Nasie, Een Taal, Een Wapen, Een Volk en (met) Een GOD

akarta

i agree partly with your view, but lets be realistic, you think one day your going to wake up and there is going to be 50million dead people around you?
Also by who’s standard (your’s) or what doctrine do we weed out fake Christians to real one’s?

Also once again why are you using the wording YAHWEH where did you get this from, its not biblical.

ive got my afrikaanse Bybel-conkordansie and i just dont find this word, stop using this Sacred Name Movement/Hebrew Roots crap.

THE LORD IS NOT A MAGICAL GENIE, where if you now know HIS name, you command control over HIM, or your some how special cause you use this name. “abracadabra”
please this is not biblical. and if you think it is show me the proof of our forefathers using such a word……………. what doctrine are you people being brainwashed with,cause there are afew of you’s that use this name.

akarta

and please dont think am trying to disrespect you.
but where on earth did some of you’s pick up the usage of the word YAHWEH>?
and why do you’s disrespect the LORD OF MIGHTY, THE LORD OF ALL THINGS, the LORD of HEAVEN.
no man can say or withstand the GLORY OF GOD’S NAME.
stop using the Sacred Name Movement/Hebrew Roots crap its poisoned the well (Doctrine of Bible).
do people not research what they think?
also which is the correct bible to read? which is the most correct? (i already know my answer, after much research on my part)

Pieter-Jan Van Zyl

Goeie Dag Almal Dankie Oom Adriaan vir die Goeie betroubare inligting…. Ek wonder nou (aan Kilo Alfa Kilo praat Akarta) Jy glo seker ook aan die Geestelike Isra-El nê… Wat die grootste bog is sedert die ontdekking van mens -strond onder jou skoene op n Sonnige SON-dag oggend. Wel jy sit nie net die pot mis nie die Kilo-Alfa-Kilo is nou op jou voete. Gaan Lees Openbaring waar daar staan die Hemel is net vir die Twaalf-Stamme van Isra-El. Die Massias het net Gekom vir die Verlore 10 Stamme van die Huis van Isra-El.
So vat jou kerk-gesprekke en up-dit! Wat noem jy 100 kerk predikers op die bodem van die see..
N baie goeie begin en dit die wette-skrywers ook. In Mattheus 25 sê my Massias hy sal die Boknasies van sy Skape skei met die Swaard (Oorlog, Pes en Bloed vergieting). Kom Nie die ” Draai die ander wang geloof verkondig soos die kerkies nie of was gou sy Poot/voet/Klou geloof verkondig nie”. So ek hoop as jy alles lees dan uit verstrasie moet jy jouself verwyder van die webtuiste asseblief. Jy is `n suurstof Dief in my Oë
Jy mors ons kosbare tyd en spasie hier. Vervolg

Pieter-Jan Van Zyl

Vervolg: Dan is daar ook die BYBEL wat ons waarsku teen sulke kwansuise geestelike leiers. Ons as Boer Volk is die Huis Van Israel Matt 10:5-9 want HY sê hy het ons Volk van ons Sondes Verlos – Let wel nie Volke nie. Matt 1:21 en daar word ook vir ons waarskuwings gegee van vandag se Kerk-Leraars en sogenaamde geestelikes soos Matt 12:38-40 Markus 23:5-7,14 en Lukas 20:45-47. Ons is deel van sy Ewige Verbond volgens Lukas 1:54-55 en verse 68-80 en OT Genesis 17:19-23. Jy wat liberaal is wat ook sê nes ons Predikers van Vandag die hele wêreld is deel van ñ Geestelike Israel en dat die Koninkryk nou aan almal behoort van YAHWEH, hoor wat sê SY SEUN YAHWEH-SHUA in MATT 15:22-28 (Die vrou was ñ Baster). Ek dink ook in elk geval dat jy en die ander kerkbeheptes n vreeslike ontnugtering gaan beleef as die po-po die waaier gaan slaan in die land binnekort (Ek dink/voorspel so September 2018). In elk geval sal julle spul kerk-volksgenote nie hier wees om die Nuwe-Derde Republiek te beleef nie, so doen maar jou kerk-werwing. Die Engelse en die Russe is reg vir mekaar..
Dis seker waar die Konings-Huis
n terug-slag gaan kry met een van hulle Familie-lede se skielike afsterwe/Sluipmoord binnekort, Met komplimente van die ou KGB of FSB as nuwe naam sal hulle ou-koningin liesbet/Elizabeth, se gespuis. Haar klein-seun Harry (Die har-ry gaan nog los kom oor dit) is klaar besig om die leeu se bal te skuur met sy op-kommende baster en tweedehandse vrou (was al getroud) huwelik. Maar gelukkig gaan niemand kan keur wat op-pad is nie. Want onse VADER YHWH is in beheer van gebeure. So Wê…..

akarta

oh is this so, you assume to much, on your part, firstly you think i belong to a church or attend one, i don’t nor have i ever belonged to any church group. (i rather read my Bible KJV ALONE, than be in any type of group, i dont need to be preached to, seeing i have a mind, & can think for myself)
2nd another person using scared named movement wording, is it YAHWEH or YHWH? which is it? again with this modern hebrew roots crap, i would love to have the ability to take you all back in time, 150years or 200year’s ago, and have you actually use that word in front of your forefathers, cause they would look at you as mad person, for using this word, it was never used backed them, the word was never apart of the dutch or german or english lexicon, and you dare to think am a problem, are you reading a World English Bible? a NIV? etc what bible are you reading? are you using the apocrypha which are used in latin vulgate and septuagint manuscripts? and not using the Textus Receptus manuscripts. please dont come here puffing out your chest to me.
all ive been doing here is asking questions & being realistic in my approach in doing so.
am not saying going and saying go marry in to a black, or a indian, or coloured family! every thing YOU think am doing is in your head. am being realistic about whats around me & what i see.

akarta

You think i dont see whats coming? & the blood that will flow, through certain neighbourhood in JHB (FYI before i knew or heard about die siener, towards the end of 08 well i was fully awake given a vision of the massacre that will take place).
also all i ask is question which none of you’s can answer, beside Adriaan, who use’s die siener vision’s, (which i Love Thank You, Adriaan)

dont come play game with me, & tell me to go else where. and maybe its because i use english as a first language, you think your more boer than i am, or you think your apart of the chosen group cause you use word’s like YAHWEH.

Oh & just looked through my family tree, which i can trace my family back to Jan Jacob Coetzer, (yes Synman me and you are family down the line, (your male Progenitor was Hans Christoffel Snyman, thank to Johanna Jacoba Coetzer (Synman)) we are linked)
as for you van zyl thankfully i dont see you any where in my lineage.
also you all think your such big men, you want to shut me up? here’s my cell *0!6@1@9#6$9% ^8&3*0*8 you want we can arrange to meet……..
dont come ever tell me to go elsewhere, cause your the one who will leave on your own accord, before I DO.

how enjoy the rest of your dag….

Elsie

Akarta, I do not engage with christians anymore. Your religion is as foreign to me as Islam or the Jewish religion.
Therefore, your comments about woman- due to liar Paul’s hatred of woman- and quotes from the NT are irrelevant and are thus disregarded.

The Name of Yahweh (nearly 7000 times), the God of Israel has been banished from your christian bibles for the simple reason that it would be impossible to relate Him to your gods, the trinity. The concept of the threeinone god is not found in the Hebrew bible and only scriptural gymnastics can make you believe it. The Hebrew Name of Yahweh/ Jehova/ Yahua or however one pronounces it, יָהוֶה , means unity, one and personal.

Deut 6
Hear O Yi$rä´ël יִשׂרָאֵל: 3478 Yähwè יָהוֶה 3068 our ´Élöhîm אֱלֹהִים 430 [is] ONE 259 YÄHWÈ

Yahweh states quite clearly:
Isa 42:8 -I am Yahweh: MY Name and MY glory will I not give to another, neither MY praise to graven images.

As far as I know, the meaning of ‘I’ is that of ONE SINGLE BEING.

Jes 48
Hearken to Me, O Jacob, and Israel, who was called by Me, I am He, I AM FIRST, YEA I AM LAST
Thus saith Yahweh, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I AM YAHWEH THY GOD which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that you shouldest go.

Need no ‘gatekeeper’.

Jer 33-Thus saith Yahweh the maker thereof, Yahweh that formed it, to establish it; Yahweh is HIS NAME; CALL UNTO ME, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.

akarta

before we even get started, What BIBLE ARE YOU USING. Am using a KJB, WHAT ARE YOU USING>?
please before i even comment to anything else, answer this & dont be shy.

Elsie

If it works for you, believe yourself as a sinner.
There are those of us that accepted the contract/covenant created by Yahweh with Israel at Horeb for a thousand generations.
Deut 29
These are the words of the covenant, which Yahweh commanded Moses to make with the CHILDREN OF ISRAEL In the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb.
YOUR LITTLE ONES, YOUR WIVES, AND THY STRANGER THAT IS IN THY CAMP, FROM THE HEWER OF THY WOOD UNTO THE DRAWER OF THY WATER:
THAT THOU SHOULDEST ENTER INTO COVENANT WITH YAHWEH THY GOD, and into his oath, which Yahweh thy God maketh with thee this day:
NEITHER WITH YOU ONLY DO I MAKE THIS COVENANT AND THIS OATH;
But with him that standeth here with us this day before Yahweh our God, AND ALSO WITH HIM THAT IS NOT HERE WITH US THIS DAY:

And the covenant is clear:
Deut 16- This day Yahweh thy God hath commanded thee to do these statutes and judgments: thou shalt therefore keep and do them with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.

Thou hast AVOUCHED YAHWEH THIS DAY TO BE THY GOD, AND TO WALK IN HIS WAYS, AND TO KEEP HIS STATUTES, AND HIS COMMANDMENTS, AND HIS JUDGMENTS, AND TO HEARKEN UNTO HIS VOICE:

AND YAHWEH HATH AVOUCHED THEE THIS DAY TO BE HIS PECULIAR PEOPLE, AS HE HATH PROMISED THEE, AND THAT THOU SHOULDEST KEEP ALL HIS COMMANDMENTS;

In accepting this covenant and abiding by the commands that the God of Israel has given, I am righteous.

Deut 6
And Yahweh commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear Yahweh our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.
AND IT SHALL BE OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, IF WE OBSERVE TO DO ALL THESE COMMANDMENTS BEFORE YAHWEH OUR GOD, AS HE HATH COMMANDED US.

Elsie

Your comment on our forefathers:
Our forefathers FEARED Yahweh and His Name. Do research on the religion of the Boer. ( Nogeens: Die agtergrond en implikasie vd Gelofte van 1838- Piet Strauss Univ vd Vrystaat )
https://hts.org.za/index.php/HTS/article/viewFile/1849/3142

As a matter of fact, our forefathers DID use the Name Jehova – Sarel Cilliers for one. There are a lot that have been concealed by the moederkerk to make us forget Yahweh’s name. Another example of the fact that our forefathers KNEW Yahweh’s Name: 1904 – Laingsburg NG Kerk hoeksteen- Jehova Nissi.

Jer 23 Which think to cause My people TO FORGET MY NAME.

And I, a WOMAN, will be a witness to the Glory, Might and SPLENDOUR of the Name of Yahweh.

Isaiah 43-I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring MY sons from far, and MY daughters from the ends of the earth;
Even EVERY ONE that is called by MY NAME: for I have created him for MY glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
YE ARE MY WITNESSES, saith Yahweh, and MY servant whom I have chosen: THAT YE MAY KNOW AND BELIEVE ME, AND UNDERSTAND THAT I AM HE: before ME THERE WAS NO GOD FORMED, NEITHER SHALL THERE BE AFTER ME.
I, I AM YAHWEH; and beside ME THERE IS NO SAVIOUR. THEREFORE YE ARE MY WITNESSES, saith Yahweh, THAT I AM GOD.

akarta

2ndly you telling me to go learn history is a joke. that pdf you pasted, i did read it, nothing new to me, yet the use of the wording God, and Here (LORD) is still being used.
not YAHWEH (note Yehovah {yeh-ho-vaw’} totally different words.
also seeing that i have dutch within my blood, 300, 200 even 100 years ago they did not use the Letter Y
ie old style Mijnhardt
modern style mynhardt.
you really wanna keep it real? cause you have failed so far.

so really where are we going with this?
you’re tell me to do more research concerning our past, but unlike yourself am already aware of this and more.

so if Yahweh correct? (or how ever you wish to spell it) you trying to pronounce a name that no one on this earth can pronounce, seeing the word does not have any vowels & to the hebrews a name that is so sacred that no one dare speak it or write it. hows fooling whom i ask?

even your use of biblical text is used in a deceiving manner. picking what you want

25 I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.
26 How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;
27 Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.
(Jer 23:25-27 KJV)

Elsie

Akarta says-
“We BOER thank God for our punishment & trials & tribulations, because it will bring us to know the value of consecrated Christian service.” (which is what is needed) to humble ourselves before our LORD.
maybe the lose of all our world possession is needed….. to make us realize what is important. and for us to repent? (when i read the Bible, the above is what normally happens every few generation to his chosen people, the Hebrews) “

That is why the people will die like flies. Christian consecrated service – what a load of horse manure.
Start reading the Hebrew bible (OT) because the following is needed for survival.

2 Chronicles 7:14
If My people, WHICH ARE CALLED BY MY NAME, YAHWEH, shall humble themselves, and pray, and SEEK MY FACE, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, AND WILL FORGIVE THEIR SIN, and WILL HEAL THEIR LAND.

Who’s Face? The Face of the GOD of Israel. We need to return to our Creator, Yahweh, because this is where we are at now.
Isa 5
Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they HAVE CAST AWAY THE LAW OF YAHWEH, and despised the WORD OF THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL

The Boer need to start with the FIRST LAW to survive what is coming:
I am YAHWEH thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. THOU SHALT HAVE NONE OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.

Dirk Albers

Elsie, jy het die saak aangaande ons vêr-regse, rassistiese Israeliete baie mooi verstaanbaar uiteengesit. Ons moet aanvaar dat al kom net EEN leser tot ander insigte, was jou, en ander, se arbeid die moeite werd. Ek probeer deernis hê met christene, want ek was ook een, vir die grootste deel van my lewe. Mense verwys baie keer na ons voorvaders, en vra waarom hulle nie dieselfde openbaring gehad het as wat ons deesdae het nie. Die Skrif sê tog duidelik dat die Kennis sal vermeerder, en dit is tog logies as mens kyk na al die hulpmiddele wat ons deesdae tot ons beskikking het. So daardie argument hou geen water nie. Nou is die christene tog so ” lief ” vir die modder en barbaar nasies, nê. Maar as jy vra of hulle hul seuns en dogters aan hierdie kreature sal gee om oulike baster kleinkinders voort te bring, dan kry jy skielik baie stories. Dan wy hulle uit oor kultuur verskille, en allerhande huigelagtige verskonings. In die ou dae, toe die swartes nog kaalgat rondgeloop het, het hierdie argumente pragtig gewerk, nê. Maar toe maak ons hulle slim en geleerd met ons hard verdiende belastinggeld. En toe oorrompel hulle ons, en steel ons land, en moor ons tans uit. En nou, meneer/mevrou christen, ” demand ” hulle jou seun en dogter. En as jy kom met jou kultuur nonsens, gooi hulle jou eie Bybel terug in jou gesig, en hulle is REG ! So maai nou maar wat jy so pragtig gesaai het, en hou jou bêk ! En nou is ek aan die swart barbaar se kant. As jy nie jou seun/dogter vir hom wil gee nie, mag hy jou doodmaak, want jy is net n tweegesig ( christen ? ) huigelaar, en ek sal jou beslis NIE kom help nie !

akarta

Dirk look around, look at all the protestants nations that are left today, look whats taken place, (the smell of our immorality, does it not reach up to GOD, does HE not smell the DIRTY, does HE not CRY? i for one am not calling for a kumbaya around the camp fire. do not mix & lay with theses cursed races, who in their right mind of state would? i don’t.)
but when one looks at whats taken place with Protestantism, how all the groups are now rushing back to the WHORE (Papal system) so we can be all one, my foot, am separate all theses people’s & from that whore. the counter reformation of the Jesuit has worked. the communist system of the Papal church has been put in place block by block since the late 1870’s (when SHE was wounded (Rev 13:3 KJV) 1929 lateran treaty she is fully healed)

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. (Rev 13:4-6 KJV)

(look at all the fake and false doctrine that has come into Protestantism since 1870 to now, nearly all of us cant tell head from tails anymore what our doctrine is.)

akarta

go read http://w2.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum.html
http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_19310515_quadragesimo-anno.html
http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-xxiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_j-xxiii_enc_15051961_mater.html
http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-xxiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_j-xxiii_enc_11041963_pacem.html
http://w2.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_26031967_populorum.html
http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20090629_caritas-in-veritate.html

https://thinkprogress.org/pope-the-bible-demands-the-redistribution-of-wealth-a0ea6e59ec15/

this aint a new plan, we as a people will be put so low down, and its really going into motion now, let wait abit until the gov, starts requesting peoples cellphones and details, from twitter and facebook and youtube, because of socalled ‘racist’ rants, momburg is just the beginning of using the vague Crimen injuria (Crimen injuria is a crime under South African common law, defined as the act of “unlawfully and intentionally impairing the dignity or privacy of another.”

An example of crimin injuria would include verbally insulting or abusing, stalking, or threatening to harm someone, or making known a person’s privileged or private information without their prior consent. Ridiculing someone’s ethnicity using racially offensive language, or ridiculing someone’s religious affiliation, sexual identity or sexual preference, may constitute crimin injuria, especially where such ridicule causes emotional or psychological harm to others.) if i call someone stupid i fall under this.

akarta

https://www.saps.gov.za/faqdetail.php?fid=9
Crimen injuria consist of unlawfully and intentionally impairing the dignity or privacy of another person.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/crimen_injuria
South African Law
A wilful injury to someone’s dignity, caused by the use of obscene or racially offensive language or gestures.

http://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZAGPPHC/2009/264.pdf << read this one it will blow your mind

http://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZAWCHC/2016/109.pdf (another one)
http://www.justice.gov.za/legislation/acts/1977-051.pdf (try even find Crimen injuria here)

we are the testing ground for this, place's elsewhere will follow so, Canada's Senate passed Bill C-16 making it illegal to use the wrong gender pronouns, uk will be next, usa they will have a harder time getting that passed as a Federal law maybe on state level its possible just look at california with Senate Bill (SB) 239, which reduces penalties for knowingly exposing a sexual partner to HIV (under $100 fine).

akarta

things will get worse, and once again as adriaan describes die siener warning, before the specter of terror comes over the enemy, the Boer nation would have to kneel in genuine reconciliation & renounce the world as they did at Blood river.
what i said is in line with the above “We BOER thank God for our punishment & trials & tribulations, because it will bring us to know the value of consecrated Christian service.” (which is what is needed) to humble ourselves before our LORD.

& some of you’s dont like what i say, keep your tv’s on kyknet, enjoy the poison of what this world has to offer with your scared name crap, etc etc

but am being realistic in my out-view, 55+ million is alot of killing to do, and this is not including populations above our boarder. think about that, and the logistics under 5 million whites, not even a 89% of this white population figure will take part in what is to come..

also another aspects dealing with the above, centers around the Seventh Commandment “Thou shalt not kill. (Deu 5:17 KJV)” which links to NT For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. (Jam 2:10 KJV)
How does this come in to play, does the Man in the Grey Suite, take responsibility/burden for the above Law when He gives the order to go fourth?
and let say you kill 10000 are you for doing this responsible for breaking this LAW or is HE.
or could one say there is a probation period? where this will be allowed?

akarta

also Elise, women you keep your mouth shut, cause you will not be doing any of this, you are not having to prepare for this mentally & then finally put it in to practice. you will not be apart of this in getting your hands bloody.

cause unlike youself ive been preparing, this will be what i play on a loud speak at full volume each time we surround and enter a village, to wipe out the people in it (i hope you enjoy it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4qZwxWAtBE (i picked this way back in late Nov, Dec of 08, after what GOD allowed me to see, concerning the Night Attack) (& fyi if your caught up in this, you are going to shake like a little leaf in fear, unable to control yourself from shaking, begging GOD for help and forgiveness, as they go house to house, killing everything, from your pet cat to your dog, to baby, to your child, to your husband, the blood that will flow and be over every, they will take hardly nothing from theses houses, the houses will not even be used or cleaned up after this event (at the start of this they will discus among themselves how they are going to live in this house, and have a clean start with all the possession that they take, yet none will, for that night the bloodlust will be unlike anyone has ever seen before, since the st. bartholomew’s day massacre they will be lead by Satan himself in spirit, seeing they are all possessed already) also in areas like kensington (where i lived nearly all my life) the black neighbors are not going to be speared, they are going to get the same treatment.

akarta

the police will at the beginning of event, they will try intervene by the edge of kensington & jeppe by they will be given a choice either join us, or we will kill you, they will be more armed than the police are, automatic weapons semi, pangas, bricks, etc u can use ur imagination.
their will be helicopters some recording what will be taking place, other just monitoring.
trying to use exit roads out of JHB or stopping at petrol station will get many killed. telecommunication will be cut. the blood that will flow should scare the life out of you, the death the stink that will take place after this event is done and dusted will linger in those certain neighbourhood, people will be in a state of sock, a state of disbelief as to what has happened when they hear about it or drive through the areas affected. i hope your ready for this. cause this will be apart of putting us in our places, so we are like 3rd class citizens in our fatherland.

Give Me My BIBLE and My GUN, So I may do the LORD’s Work, will be my MOTTO.

i will keep quite now and go on my way, enjoy.

akarta

and the last bit (until you tell me what bible you are using)

and you keep adding to the bible with the usage of the word YAHWEH
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
(Rev 22:18-19 KJV)

you are denying HIS WORD, you then try throw out the baby with the bath water (tell me to only use the OT)
imagine that. you keep on sticking to your Sacred Name Movement aka Hebrew Roots Movement

The best known distinction of the SNM is its advocacy of the use of the “sacred name” Yahweh (Hebrew: יַהְוֶה), i.e., the reconstructed proper name of the God of Israel, and the use of the original Hebrew name of Jesus, often transliterated as Yahshua.[1] SNM believers also generally keep many of the Old Testament laws and ceremonies such as the Seventh-day Sabbath, Torah festivals, and kashrut food laws.
did Jesus not do away with the ceremonial laws?

akarta

The Sacred Name Movement arose in the early 20th century out of the Church of God (Seventh Day) movement. This movement was influenced by Joseph Franklin Rutherford who changed the name of the main branch of the Bible Student movement to Jehovah’s Witnesses in 1931, based on his belief in the importance of the Hebrew name of God. C. O. Dodd, a member of the Church of God (Seventh Day), began keeping the Jewish festivals (including Passover) in 1928, adopting sacred name doctrines in the late 1930s.

The Assembly of Yahweh was the first religious organization in the Sacred Name Movement. It was formed in Holt, Michigan, in the 1930s. The Assembly of Yahweh believes the name of the Almighty Yahweh should be used along with his son’s name, Yahshua. They keep the seventh day Sabbath (Friday sunset to Saturday sunset) along with all the scriptural feast days. They believe the Torah (law) was not done away with. They believe Yahshua is the son of Yahweh and that his life, death, burial, and resurrection give us salvation.

note am not saying doing away with the LAW, we must come back to that. but ceremonial they are long gone……

Dirk Albers

Akarta, you have gone to GREAT lengths, and trouble, to inform us all about your religion, and/or how you view christianity. Please tell us, exactly what you hope to achieve ? You are promoting a church, or religion, or cult, which is but one of thirty thousand out of ONE Bible. You like the KJV, and that is your democratic right. Are you trying to make deciples out of deciples ? This is what most ” spititual leaders ” do, when they want to start a new church. They infiltrate another flock of sheep, and start chasing them around, and cause confusion and mayhem. Most readers here, have progressed through the conventional christian doctrine, of dragging everything on two legs to Heaven. I myself, walked this self destructing path for decades, and by the grace of Yahweh, I saw the LIGHT. But now, I am a very angry man, not only because I was so horribly misled by VARIOUS christian churches, and their highly educated priests of Baal, but I also lost a LOT of money. I live for the day, when like Elijah, I can chop off the heads of thousands of christian preachers, who are still leading good honest believers up the satanic multi-culti garden path. The reason I have not started yet, is because I fear being put in jail with black, satanic barbarians. ( I can not even tolerate a nice ” christian ” black in my house ) So pray for me, so that I can rise above my fear to go to jail !

akarta

i hear you, & i also hear the anger, i follow only the KJB (textus receptus) i do not belong to a church, cult, club, no party. i dont want anyone to follow me reason being am a individual and with that i and only i will be accountable for my action, not some socalled leader who cares not for my salvation. KJB 1611 is how i was saved, not the 1769 not the NKJV, to add further i have gone and even compared the KJB to 35 other bible version, so i have done my research (if you want my execl sheet with all the bibles in, i will gladly pass it along), i didnt need to visit a temple of any sort, and i have not been ripped off in my endeavour…. nor have i made money of learning (seeing every day i learn a little bit more) nor do i want any type of following, nor do i want your monies.
and i dont pretend to like every person, be they white or black or what ever else, if the person i come in contact does not follow the KJB, i earmark them as untrustworthy. and thats all people i know fall in to the latter.

otherwise keep well, and dont go over board, if you have a family to care after, think about them & keep a cool head, when dealing with ppl & only kill in self defence, but we can already see what will take place here, which is what is going to give us the right to kill, but that after a mass killing that takes place.

Ockie

akarta se naam so pas met n plank geslaan deur n dame wat weet waarvan sy praat

akarta

also i have over 5000 books dealing on religion, none of the books i have from the 1500 or 1600 or 1700 and up to the 1850 none i repeat none ever use that word, they start using YAHWEH late 1890’s & onwards
ie https://archive.org/stream/americanlectures03newy 1899
https://archive.org/details/theologyethicsof00duffiala 1902
https://archive.org/details/documentsofhexat01addi 1893
https://archive.org/details/religiousideasof00robi 1913
https://archive.org/stream/dayofyahweh00smit 1901
https://archive.org/details/bookofyahwehthey00mans 1922
https://archive.org/stream/tripletraditiono00bacouoft 1894
https://archive.org/details/emphasisedbiblen01roth 1916

so once again i ask a simple question where and when was the first time you started using the word YAHWEH.
cause i know just as you know, you didnt discover the word by yourself nor did u discover it using Torah code (cause you cant read hebrew).
which means you heard it from someone else, where did you hear it from?
cause i page through die Afrikaanse Bybel-Konkordansie (which my great grand father wrote and published & his son Felix carrying on working on it (who i might add was gifted linguistically & worked for boss as a translator) http://www.worldcat.org/title/afrikaanse-bybelkonkordansie/oclc/637492792 and guess what i dont find it.

so ja i guess am calling you out with your SNM/Jehovah’s Witnesses doctrine same goes to all of you’s that use the word (your all included) what fake doctrine are you’s trying to spread here & to others.

cause you already have denied Emmanuel our LORD Jesus Christ (aka the Son of God, the ALPHA AND THE OMEGA) our savior testimony. what else are you going to change or discard, might i ask?

akarta

Afternoon, like yourself i dont speak nor can i read or write Aramaic, Greek or Hebrew, so why adopt a single word from a language one does not speak nor write? theses words have all ready been transliterated into our own tongues, which is at the core of my disagreement with ppl that use them & why i dont use them and will not use them.
why do i have to adopt a completely different word to that which is transliterated into my own tongue? yes its the root word but not in dutch and not in english, why not just use Jehovah, whats wrong with using this word? does anyone think GOD does not know what you mean, does HE not know ones hart?

Mimi+Hildebrand

Akarta, Yahshua was never refered to as Immanuel. Go read Yeshayahu (Isaiah) 7 carefully.
7:14 Therefore YaHWeH Himself shall give you a sign; behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel

Now read and understand…

7:16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and chose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.

Who is the kings? Rezin the king of Syria and Pekah the son of Remaliah.

How long before a child know between good and evil? 12 years?

The child spoken of, is most likely the son of Yeshayahu. Not Yahshua born hundreds of years later.

AntSan

Elsie, hoekom net die OT? Wat van die Messiach?

akarta

OT & NT COMBINED is the Word, they both confirm each other.

AntSan

Wil voorkom asof Elsie die Nuwe verbond in die asblik gegooi het?

Johann Cronje

AntSan (1) –

Jy vra – “ Elsie, hoekom net die OT? Wat van die Messiach? Wil voorkom asof Elsie die Nuwe verbond in die asblik gegooi het?”

Sy sal seker self antwoord, maar hier is my kommentaar daarop!
Daar is nêrens enige Skrifgedeelte waar YAHWEH verklaar dat Hy “persoonlik” ‘n “nuwe” verbond “reeds” ingestel het nie. Hebreërs 8:13 is ‘n basiese ‘n kopie van Jer 31:31 en om dit te verdraai na ‘n profesie wat reeds vervul is, is verkeerd!. Die huis van Israel (10 stammeryk) was nie teenwoordig tydens die veronderstelde typerk van die Messias nie. Slegs ‘n gedeete van die huis van Juda was skynbaar daar, So daar kon geen nuwe verbond opgerig gewees het met beide huise nie en al te mits nie deur Yahweh self nie. Hierdie “NUWE” verbond moet nog opgerig word in die toekoms nadat die verstrooide Israelnasies weer as ‘n eenheid bymekaar gebring is. Baie kotroversiële en selfs twyfelagtige verklarings is in die NT gemaak en veral deur ene Paulus en al sy talle “assistent” skrywers wat baie geskrifte names hom geskryf het. Daar is hope teenstrydighede tussen die uitsprake van Paulus en die van Jesus en so ook is daar honderde soortgelyke teenstrydighede tussen die geskrifte (boeke) van die verskllinde “apostels” wat aanleiding gee tot dogma en dwaalleer. Jammer maar dit is feite.

Voorbeelde – Die “skrywers” van die volgende boeke, Mat 12:17-21; Lukas 4:28-21 beweer dat Jesus gesê het dat hy die “profesie van Jes 42: 1-4 vervul het!! Wie is Yahweh se kneg Jes 42:1 ? Wie is Yahweh se eersgeborene seun? Op beide die vrae is die antwoord JAKOB (ISRAEL), maar die NT gryp die Skrifgedeeltes aan om te beweer dat dit profesië is m.b.t. Jesus !?
Paul’s Contradictions of Jesus – http://www.jesuswordsonly.com/recommendedreading/175-pauls-contradictions-of-jesus.html

Johann Cronje

AntSan (2) –

Die NUWE VERBOND met die twee huise van Israel moet nog deur YAHWEH “persoonlik” vasgemaak word, eers nadat HY al die verstrooides van die Israelnasies bymekaar gemaak het.
Jer 31:31&33 – Kyk, daar kom dae, spreek YAHWEH, dat Ek met die huis van Israel en die huis van Juda ’n nuwe verbond sal sluit; nie soos die verbond wat Ek met hulle vaders gesluit het op dié dag toe Ek hulle hand gegryp het om hulle uit Egipteland uit te lei nie — my verbond wat húlle verbreek het, alhoewel Ék gebieder oor hulle was, spreek YAHWEH. Maar dit is die verbond wat Ek ”ná dié dae” met die huis van Israel sal sluit, spreek YAHWEH: Ek gee my wet in hulle binneste en skrywe dit op hulle hart; en ” EK “ sal vir hulle ’n “GOD” wees, en hulle sal vir “MY” ’n volk wees.
Eseg 11:17 – daarom sê: So spreek YAHWEH: Ek sal julle bymekaarmaak uit die volke en julle versamel uit die lande waarin julle verstrooi is, en Ek sal aan julle die land Israel gee.
Vers 19-20 – En Ek sal hulle een hart gee, en ’n nuwe gees in julle binneste gee; en Ek sal die hart van klip uit hulle vlees verwyder en hulle ’n hart van vlees gee, sodat hulle in my insettinge kan wandel en my verordeninge kan hou en dit doen; en hulle sal vir my ’n volk wees, en Ek sal vir hulle ’n God wees. (Dit is die bewys dat geen wette of verodeninge f van Yahweh reeds of ooit sal verval nie)
Eseg 34:13 – En Ek sal hulle uitlei uit die volke en versamel uit die lande en hulle bring in hul land; en Ek sal hulle laat wei op die berge van Israel, in die klowe en in al die bewoonbare plekke van die land.
Eseg 36:24 – En Ek sal julle uit die nasies gaan haal en julle uit al die lande bymekaar laat kom, en Ek sal julle in jul land bring.

Johann Cronje

AntSan (3) –

Sef 3:20 – In “dié tyd” sal Ek julle aanbring, ja, in die “ tyd wanneer” Ek julle versamel; want Ek maak julle tot ’n roem en tot ’n lof onder al die volke van die aarde, wanneer Ek voor julle oë julle lot verander, sê YAHWEH.
Joël 3:2 – sal Ek al die nasies versamel en hulle na die dal van Jósafat laat aftrek, om daar met hulle ’n strafgerig te hou ter wille van my volk en my erfdeel Israel wat hulle onder die nasies verstrooi het, en my land wat hulle verdeel het.

Elsie

Jer 31 verbond ?
Kyk, daar kom dae, spreek Yahweh, dat Ek met die huis van Israel en die huis van Juda ‘n nuwe verbond sal sluit;
Maar dit is die verbond WAT EK NÁ DIÉ DAE met die huis van Israel sal sluit, spreek Yahweh: EK GEE MY WET IN HULLE BINNESTE EN SKRYWE DIT OP HULLE HART; EN EK SAL VIR HULLE ‘N GOD WEES, EN HULLE SAL VIR MY ‘N VOLK WEES.
En hulle sal nie meer ELKEEN SY NAASTE EN ELKEEN SY BROER LEER NIE EN SÊ: KEN YAHWEH; WANT HULLE SAL MY ALMAL KEN, KLEIN EN GROOT ONDER HULLE, SPREEK YAHWEH; WANT EK SAL HULLE ONGEREGTIGHEID VERGEWE EN AAN HULLE SONDE NIE MEER DINK NIE.

NT verbond met die bloedwyn en vleisbrood?

1. Jer 31 NET met die huis van Juda en Israel*** NT verbond met almal wat in Jesus glo.

2. Yahweh se wet dieselfde wet in Exo en Deut *** NT wette is anders soos die LEUEN.
Mat 6- Want as julle die mense hulle oortredinge vergewe, sal julle hemelse Vader julle ook vergewe.
Maar as julle die mense hulle oortredinge nie vergewe nie, sal julle Vader julle oortredinge ook nie vergewe nie
Kry bevestiging van die twee verse. Nooit het Yahweh so iets kwytgeraak nie. Man can only sin against Yahweh. Example -If someone kills my child and if I steal from another- how on earth wil Yahweh forgive for my sin BECAUSE I forgave someon else. Rubbish verses.
I dont have to forgive a murderer, liar, rapist or any one that does me harm.

3. Jer 31 – Yahweh ons God ***NT Jesus julle god

4. Jer 31 – volk van Yahweh *** NT kerk/bruid van christus

5. Jer 31 – almal sal Yahweh en SY NAAM ken ***NT niemand ken Yahweh nie net Jesus

6. Jer 31 – Yahweh vergeef ons sondes *** NT Jesus vergeef sondes.

Two different covenants from two different books from two different gods. The covenant of Jer 31 has not happened yet.

Pieter

Ken julle die boekie: Toe die mense slaap. H. Klapwijk
Dit boekie gaan oor die invloed van het kommunisme in de wereld en vooral in ZuidAfrika. Hoe hulle overal ingedring het. Dis onvoorstelbaar.
Ek kwoteer: “Hulle het al die lande bo ZuidAfrika oorgeneem. Met die bedoeling om eendag ZuidAfrika te verower en sodoende die minerale rykdom in die wereld te verkry. Hulle bedoeling is om kontrole te verkry oor die twee groot skatte waarvan die Weste afhankelik is – die energieskat van die Persiese Golf en die mineraleskat van Suidelike Afrika. Die voorrade van strategiese minerale in die wereld word nagenoeg totaal beheers deur twee lande – SuidAfrika en die Sowjet-Unie. Baie van hierdie minerale is vir die Weste en sy ekonomie vitaal en onmisbaar.”

Die boekie beschrijft mooi hoe die Sowjet Unie te werk gegaan het en nog werk om hulle doel te bereik. Lees die uitspraak van Lenin.
Lenin het gese:
“Die grootste kuns van oorlogsvoering is om in die geheel nie te veg nie, maar tog jou vyand van jou af te hou en te oorwin deur sy morele beginsels te verwoes, sy godsdiens, kultuur en sy hele tradisie te vernietig. As’n land eenmaal ontmoedig is, kan dit geneem word sonder om’n skoot af te vuur.”

Ons sien hoe die strategie van Lenin (Illuminatie / edomieten) om ons heen werk. Al onze normen en waarden moeten vernietigt worden, totdat ons ontmoedig is.
Hoeveel moed, hoop en krag is daar nog in ons mense? Gaan ons wankel? Gaan ons bezwijk?
Nee!!!
Psalm 62:4
Doch gij, mijn ziel, het ga zo ‘t wil,
Stel u gerust, zwijg Gode stil;
Ik wacht op Hem; Zijn hulp zal blijken.
Hij is mijn rots, mijn heil in nood,
Mijn hoog vertrek; Zijn macht is groot;
Ik zal noch wank’len, noch bezwijken.

Dirk Albers

Pieter, dankie vir die fokus op die groter prentjie van wat besig is om ons af te speel. Volgens die satan en sy generaals, is die ” NSA eksperiment ” BAIE suksesvol, en mooi op spoed, nê. Want dit lyk regtig of die Adamiete se dae getel is in hierdie land. As dit nog net die oormag getalle van die barbare was, sou ons nog kon hoop vir n verskriklike pestelensie, of n bloedige oorlog tussen die swart nasies wat hulle getalle sou uitdun. Maar al hierdie oplossings lyk totaal onmoontlik op hierdie stadium, want noudat hulle alles beheer, en die witman se rykdom inpalm/steel, teel hulle aan, soos nog NOOIT tevore nie. Verder, STROOM hulle broers en susters, van regoor die HELE Afrika, ongehinderd oor ons grense, om die Adamiet verder te verswelg. En die wittes vlug uit hierdie land uit, teen n tempo wat die heel tyd vermeerder, en nie verminder nie. Maar volgens die sataniese christen kerke, is hierdie alles wonderlike tekens, want elke barbaar is n ( potensiële ? ) kind van Liewe Jesus. Maar die ” oes,” is al lankal te groot vir die beskikbare arbeiders. Alle DENKENDE blankes in hierdie land, is beslis benoud op hierdie stadium. Dit word vir my al duideliker, dat slegs n geringe, ellendige oorblyfsel gaan/sal gered word. Die vraag ontstaan dan, hoeveel is ” gering ? ” Noem my maar n pessimis, maar ek begin dink in terme van DUISENDE, of miskien selfs HONDERDE ?

Johann Cronje

Pieter,
Dit is alles waar. Ons was bewus van die kommunistiese monster se vraatsugtige eetlus, maar talle van ons leiers het geswig voor die misleiding en omkopery van die NWO (Joodse Illumintati) wat die argitekte van kommunisme is. Al die Afrikalande het deurgeloop, maar die eindteiken was Suid- Afrika wat uiteindelik ook op die tafel vir ete aangebied is.
Kommunisme is uit leuens en bedrog gebore. Dit is maklik om hierdie ideologie aan die onopgeleide, honger en arm massas van die wêreld te voed. Vandag is ons veronderstel om ‘n demokrasie te wees, maar die massas is gebreinspoel en dik gevoer aan die gemaklike ideologie van kommunisme. Hulle wil die brood aan beide kante gesmeer hê om die beste van twee idiotiese ideologië te geniet.
The Great Communist Lie is now so pervasive in our society that much of the message has become subliminal, gently interwoven as it is into our formal education, the “spin” on our news, our prevalent editorial commentary, our published literature, our entertainment, and nowadays even main themes in our public discourse and political argument. Today, it rarely if ever goes by the more honest, original name of Communism, but that is precisely what it is; and Communism is, precisely, a lie. It is a smooth subterfuge that most often does not even go by its own name.
https://www.catholicamericanthinker.com/communist-lie.html

Johann Cronje

Akarta (1),

You have made some unfounded statements and posed several foolish questions that unfortunately indicate to a lack of knowledge and wisdom. You consider your own perception of religion to be the true version. No matter how many thousands of books you have read or how many websites you have consulted through the years, it is clear that you have not investigated or found the truth about many aspects. It has evaded you all along. Perhaps that is the reason why you have stumbled onto this forum. I certainly DON’T THINK I KNOW IT ALL, but this I can tell you. – Many of us have been where you are right now with regards to your belief. We were all blinded by (manmade) RCC and other Christian doctrine and told what to believe. Then, one day, “the penny drops” and finally you may say, “I now understand”!
You also said that “no man can say or withstand the GLORY OF GOD’S NAME”. (Who told you so?)
Psalm 30:4 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB) – 4 Sing to Yahweh, you His faithful ones and praise His holy name. Psalm 105:1 – Give thanks to Yahweh, call on His name; proclaim His deeds among the peoples.
Your disrespect, ignorance and denial of the Holy NAME of YAHWEH your CREATOR and the “ONLY living GOD and “ONLY” SAVIOR, is exactly where the “penny has NOT YET dropped”. You, like many believers, disrespect Him by calling Him Lord or God. Those are titles that many other gods or humans are called by. Some even call Him Lord Jesus or Lord God. That certainly is also NOT His NAME!
See the following different Bible translations of Isaiah 42:8 and tell us which of them make more sense to acknowledge Yahweh’s request for us to address Him by His Hole NAME, that was omitted and replaced by a human title (Lord), during translations of the original scripture.

Johann Cronje

Akarta (2),

Read with care! – Isaiah 42:8

21st Century King James Version (KJ21) – 8 I am the LORD; that is My name. And My glory will I not give to another, neither My praise to graven images.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB) – 8 I am Yahweh, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another or My praise to idols.

Names of God Bible (NOG) – 8 I am Yahweh; that is my name. I will not give my glory to anyone else or the praise I deserve to idols.

Isaiah 43:10 – “You are My witnesses,” declares YAHWEH “And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there “was no God” formed, And there “will be none after Me ”. 11″I, even I, am YAHWEH, And there is “NO SAVIOR” besides Me.…

Ezekiel 36: 21-23 – “But I had concern for My “holy name”, which the house of Israel had profaned among the nations where they went. 22″Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says YAHWEH “It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am about to act, but for My “holy name”, which you have profaned among the nations where you went. 23″ I will vindicate the holiness of My “great name” which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst. Then the nations will know that I am YAHWEH,” declares YAHWEH, “when I prove Myself holy among you in their sight.…

Ezekiel 39:7 – 6″And I will send fire upon Magog and those who inhabit the coastlands in safety; and they will know that I am YAHWEH. 7″My “holy name” I will make known in the midst of My people Israel; and I will not let My “holy name” be profaned anymore. And the nations will know that I am YAHWEH, the Holy One in Israel.8″Behold, it is coming and it shall be done,” declares YAHWEH. “That is the day of which I have spoken.…

Elsie

Akarta, jy beweer jy lees net die KJB, so LEES dit dan:

Uit die KJB:

Exo 6:3- And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, BY THE NAME OF GOD ALMIGHTY, but by MY NAME JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Exo 17:15 -And Moses built an altar, and called the name of it Jehovahnissi:

Judges 6:24 -Then Gideon built an altar there unto the LORD, and called it Jehovahshalom: unto this day it is yet in Ophrah of the Abiezrites.

Ps 83:18 -That men may know that thou, whose NAME ALONE is JEHOVAH, art the Most High over all the earth.

Isaiah 12:2 -Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; HE also is become MY SALVATION.

Isaiah 26:4 -Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:

And there it is, for all to read.

You comments

“not YAHWEH (note Yehovah {yeh-ho-vaw’} totally different words”

“so if Yahweh correct? (or how ever you wish to spell it) you trying to pronounce a name that no one on this earth can pronounce, seeing the word does not have any vowels & to the hebrews a name that is so sacred that no one dare speak it or write it. hows fooling whom i ask?”

To get you out of your ignorance concerning the pronunciation of the Name of Yahweh that according to christians and jews cannot be uttered-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRsbSLU9oFA

This is a lesson from one that KNOWS Hebrew, the grammar, the spelling and the pronunciation.

Alas, in my experience, christians do not gather knowledge, they cling to their beliefs even when confronted with real evidence to show the contrary. That is why I do not engage since it is usually a futile exercise.

Elsie

Akarta- your statements:

“i would love to have the ability to take you all back in time, 150years or 200year’s ago, ……”

Here are more proof:
1. Die 1583 Nederlandse Deuxaes Bijbel verwys in die KANTAANTEKENINGE VAN PSALM 83:19, NA JEHOUA:
Ps.83:19
“sodat hulle kan weet dat U, wie se Naam HERE is, alleen die Allerhoogste is oor die hele aarde.”

2. DIE 1637 NEDERLANDSE STATE BYBEL IDENTIFISEER DIE SKEPPER VAN HEMEL EN AARDE AS “JEHOVAH” IN DIE VOETNOTA ONDERAAN DIE BLADSY VAN GENESIS 2 VERS 4. DAAR WORD DUIDELIK GEMAAK DAT ORALS WAAR “HEERE” STAAN, NA “JEHOVAH” VERWYS WORD.
Gén.2:4
“Dit zijn de geboorten des hemels en der aarde, als zij geschapen werden; ten dage als de HEERE God de aarde en den hemel maakte.”

3. Op 13 Junie 1839, skryf C.J. Brand, redakteur van die Kaapse koerant De Zuid-Afrikaan, ‘n brief aan Andries Pretorius oor die grootsheid van die slag van Bloedrivier. In die brief skryf hy dat die Afrikaansche Boere moet voortgaan om ONDER DIE NAAM VAN “JOHOVAH” DIE STRYD TE VOER, WANT HY SAL DIE STRYD VOER NAMENS DIE MANSKAPPE, EN DIE VYANDE VERNIEL:

Your comment:
“you really wanna keep it real? cause you have failed so far.”

is only an indictment of your own ignorance.

With a little bit of understanding it is clear that the Boere, when speaking about, die HEERE, they ONLY MEANT Jehova.

ALSO
1. Not ONCE did they read from the NT. They KNEW they had to have the protection of the God of Israel.
2. They did NOT make the vow IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

To claim that our forefathers, the Boere, believed the same as today’s christians is a fallacy. The evidence shows the contrary. There were NO ISSUE or AMBIGUITY among the Boere when they spoke of die HEERE – they knew Jehova and it was accepted that HE was Creator.

Elsie

Akarta:
“no man can say or withstand the GLORY OF GOD’S NAME.”

Where on earth did you get this lie from? Have you ever read the bible?

and this:
“THE LORD IS NOT A MAGICAL GENIE, where if you now know HIS name, you command control over HIM, or your some how special cause you use this name. “abracadabra”
please this is not biblical. and if you think it is show me the proof of our forefathers using such a word……………. what doctrine are you people being brainwashed with,cause there are afew of you’s that use this name.”

Guess what? It is in fact our ‘magic’ and our salvation in times of trouble AND IT IS BIBLICAL. Yahweh has URGED the righteous to CRY out to Him and CALL upon His Name when in trouble.

Ps 129-OUR HELP is in THE NAME OF YAHWEH, WHO MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH.

Zephaniah 3:12 I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people, AND THEY SHALL TRUST IN THE NAME OF YAHWEH

1Chron 5-en hulle het hulp gekry teen hulle, en die Hagareners is in hulle hand oorgegee, en almal wat met hulle saam was; WANT HULLE HET YAHWEH AANGEROEP IN DIE OORLOG, EN HY HET HULLE VERHOOR, OMDAT HULLE OP HOM VERTROU HET.

Jer 33-Thus saith Yahweh the maker thereof, Yahweh that formed it, to establish it; Yahweh is HIS NAME; CALL UNTO ME, AND I WILL ANSWER THEE, AND SHEW THEE GREAT AND MIGHTY THINGS, WHICH THOU KNOWEST NOT.

Magic! So, a resounding YES- Our God has given His NAME to use. You call it ‘magic’, we call it WONDEROUS!

Ps 72
Blessed be Yahweh , the God of Israel, who only doeth wondrous, “magic” things.

akarta

Elsie now you using JOHOVAH?? when my issue with you was the use of yahweh.
your a fool, my dear a fool, you try twist what i was taking offense to, and try make out it was with the dutch and english word JEHOVAH. your a fool of the next level, and a good reason why people should not take doctrine from women. i dont mind hearing you out, but you have gone 180 degrees in the opposite direction. saying i have a issue with JEHOVAH. I HAVE A ISSUE WITH YOU USING yahweh, or YHWH.

also https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/490822059365805691 this is where you 1. The 1583 Dutch Deuxaes Bible refers to the EVENTS OF PSALM 83:19, AFTER JEHOUA:
Ps.83:19 (please anyone can google)

also you think you keeping it real

akarta

here 1637 Dutch Bible die statenvertaling (in actual DUTCH)
3 En Ik ben aan Abraham, Izak, en Jakob verschenen, als God de Almachtige; doch met Mijn Naam HEERE ben Ik hun niet bekend geweest. (Exo 6:3 SVV)
3 De HEERE is een krijgsman; HEERE is Zijn Naam ! (Exo 15:3 SVV)
17 Drie malen des jaars zullen al uw mannen voor het aangezicht des Heeren HEEREN verschijnen. (Exo 23:17 SVV)
23 Al wat mannelijk is onder u zal driemaal in het jaar verschijnen voor het aangezicht des Heeren HEEREN, den God van Israel. (Exo 34:23 SVV)
24 Toen bouwde Gideon aldaar den HEERE een altaar, en noemde het: De HEERE is vrede ! het is nog tot op dezen dag in Ofra der Abi-ezrieten. (Jdg 6:24 SVV)
18 Opdat zij weten, dat Gij alleen met Uw Naam zijt de HEERE, de Allerhoogste over de ganse aarde. (Psa 83:18 SVV)

now where do we go from here.
cause from what am seeing some of you’s are also misguided.
Johann busy trying to convince me to use new bibles
the Holman Christian Standard Bible has already been exposed as a corrupt bible, the 21st KJB also fake, dont come with copyright bibles. that an insult of the highest kind to me.

go take your roman bibles & i think you know where you can place it

Hinsie

Goeie naand
‘n Aanhaling van Dirk hier bo: “This is what most ” spititual leaders ” do, when they want to start a new church. They infiltrate another flock of sheep, and start chasing them around, and cause confusion and mayhem.”
Nou die goed (spititual leaders) spesialiseer in waar die mense op hulle “laagste” is, daarom het hulle die ou boere, soos Akarta hierbo beskryf , (in sy eerste skrywes,) geinfiltreer en hierdie ekige, ek godsdiensies aan hulle verkoop. Mens kan hulle (die boere) seker nie kwalik neem dat hulle geval het vir die goed nie, om so ver van die huis te wees, al jou goed is verbrand, jou vrou en kinders kry swaar in die konsentrasiekampe, jy het die oorlog verloor, ens. is die versoeking seker baie groot om te val vir die ekige, ek godsdienste.
Dit is dan ook waar al ons moeilikheid, verval, afvalighied begin het, met die aanvaarding van die duisende egoistiese godsdienste. So het dit dan ook met die geslagte langs geloop tot waar ons vandag is. Net al hoe meer geword.
Nou is die probleem om met die mense te praat moet mens sy/haar ego aanval en dan verdedig die spul met al wat hulle het, om die ego te beskerm. Meeste van die tyd weet hulle, hulle is verkeerd maar om die ego op te gee is baie, baie moeilik. Omtrent onmoontlik.
Groetnis.

Pieter-Jan van Zyl

Goeie Naand aan almal — akarta-kie ek hoor net krieke/crickets as ek jou lees-stoffies probeer in-neem.
Ek is ook nie seker wat jy hier soek nie. Nou wie is jy eintlik as jy by jou moeder se huis is. Is jy besig met werwing of probeer jy iets sê? Ek dink jy is n stommeruk en ookn domme-tjie met seker ook n sogenaamde wêreld kennis gradering wat ook tot geen nut is nie. Jou engels is dood vir my, het geen bestaans - reg nie soos hulle my voor-ouers vermoor het in die Anglo-Boere oorlog.
Jy bring
n knip-mes na n skiet geveg ek sal netn stukkie biltong vir jou gee voor ek almal n guns sal doen en jou mooi netjies tussen die rooinek ogies gooi. Jou Familie geskiedenis beteken vir my absoluut niks. So loop blaas doppies in jou moeder se voorhuis.. Jy sal graag wil weet wie my voor-ouers is maar vir my om te weet vir jou om te loop soek en uit te vind as jy die B@lls het...Jy beledig my as jy myn Christen noem ek glo nie die kerke nie(Baal-tempels) ek is `n Gelowige so jy is ook maar tweede-hans en regtig onnosel as jy my opinie soek. So Wê-Wê AKARTA-kie Groete en lekker aand aan almal behalwe akarta-kie

Deborah de Richter

NET NOTA…ek het laas jaar verskeie kere hier op d blog gese en verduidelik dat Daniel twaalf se 1335 DAE eindig op 28 aug 2017 en dat ons van daar af d eindtyd betree v hierdi bedeling wat begin het met Noag Vloed..en dat d Boerevolk se geboortepyne nou sal begin. ..ek het ook gese d 2300 DAE eindig so in april mei 2003…en teen daardie tyd sit hierdie volk in d kampe en roep n selfregering oor hulle uit..ek het d uitleg v Daniel Bybel boek gedokumenteer in drie artikels..as jy belangstel epos my by belladonna574@gmail.com..
Toe ek hierdi voorspellings gemaak het verlede jaar is ek afgemaak as n mal profeet wat d bybel verkeerd interpreteer .NOU KYK WAAR IS NOU??! D Boerevolk staan op d vooraand v sy laaste oorlewingstryd..di swart regime het klaar besluit om sy grond te vat…di staatsgreep wat ek voorspel het wat sal plaasvind om Zuma te lig het vroeg hierdi jaar plaasgevind…
Nou wag ons vir die tweede staatsgreep deur d chinese…..en d volksmoord…
Groete
Deborah De Richter

Johann Cronje

Debora(1),
Jy was vir baie lank stil, want niks het gebeur soos jy dit voorspel het nie. Die enigste sinkgate in PTA/Centurion is a.g.v. dolomiet en nie van die astroide se impak nie.
Ek haal net weer al jou “droomvoorspellings” hieronder aan waarvan al die datums reeds verstreke is en die” Astroides” toe nooit gekom het nie. Jy het gesê – “Volgende is belangrike drome..
1. ek sien ‘n astroide tref die Rebekka straat begraafplaas hier in PTA..van die punt van impak af split die aarde oop na die ooste toe..
2. die moot val groot sinkgate in en sluk die huise..hou dalk verband met bg..of dalk die groot aardbewing wat deur pta nog moet kom..
3. ‘n dameskoshuis v tukkies in Hatfield stort inmekaar..
4. baie baie binnekort sal daar ‘n belangrike nuusgebeure plaasvind in suid-afrika wat tot gevolg sal he dat blankes hulle rue draai op die konserwatiewe organisasie(s) wat hulle wil red uit uhuru..die volk sal die media propaganda glo..ook by my sal die geregsdienaars toesak..ek het ‘n dik file by NI..hulle sal verseker kom..
5. Daar val ‘n astroide in die see..die tsunami spoel oor die kus..deel van die land breek af en dryf in die see.
6. ek was in onse president se huis met die bloedige staatsgreep..
7. ek droom eendag dit reen visse en viseiers..soveel dat ek dink ons moet dit probeer begrawe want dit gaan vreeslik vrot.”

Johann Cronje

Debora (2),
Jou “onvervulde” datums
“Aan almal wat bekommerd is oor die toestand in die land wat moontlik jare kan voortduur..ek het goeie nuus. Die 1290 dae van Daniel 12 eindig 15 Julie 2017. Kort daarna sal ons ‘n staatsgreep he. Ek was self in die president se huis toe dit gebeur het. Kort daarna begin die volksmoord. Dit moet in die laaste 45 dae wees van Daniel 12. Dus vanaf 16 Julie tot 28 aug. My datum vir die nag van Jhb is 7 Aug. Dis ‘n volmaan en ook maansverduistering. Daarna vlug die volk velde vlaktes en berge toe. Ons gaan kampe toe se die Bybel. Teen 28 Aug kom die eerste groot Astroides in. Dit het ek twee maal gedroom laas jaar. Ons is oor die hond se stert. Vasbyt.”

Deborah de Richter

Ek sien hier weer n gestryery oor Jesus Vs Yahweh…volksgenote asjy nou nogni verstaan dat Yahweh d Seun is nie..dan verstaan jy niks nie…dieVader se stem het onsnog nooit gehoor of Sy gedaante gesien nie…ons ken net die Seun.en Hy word vir die tweede keer mens as Jesus…julle moet Hebreers begin baasraak volksgenote..en begin vleis eet…..

Johann Cronje

Debora (3),
Vertel dan sommer ook vir ons almal hoe kom jy by die volgende verklaring uit, aangesien jy skynbaar reeds Hebreeus magtig is? Jy sê – – “…volksgenote asjy nou nogni verstaan dat Yahweh d Seun is nie..dan verstaan jy niks nie…dieVader se stem het onsnog nooit gehoor of Sy gedaante gesien nie ons ken net die Seun.en Hy word vir die tweede keer mens as Jesus…julle moet Hebreers begin baasraak volksgenote..en begin vleis eet…..”
Wat jy moet verklaar is die volgende:
Wie se stem word in die skrifgedeelte van Jesaja woordeliks aangehaal? Wie se stem is dit en wat presies verklaar die stem vir ons?
Jes 42:10-12 – Júlle is my getuies, spreek YAHWEH en my kneg wat Ek uitverkies het, sodat julle kan weet en My kan glo en insien dat dit Ek is — “ voor My is geen God geformeer nie” , en “ná My sal daar geeneen (god) wees nie. Ek, Ek is YAHWEH, en daar is “geen Heiland buiten My nie”. Ék het “verkondig en verlos” en dit laat hoor, en daar was “geen ander god onder julle nie”; en julle is my getuies, spreek YAHWEH, en Ek is God. Ook van vandag af is Ek dit, en “NIEMAND RED uit MY hand NIE”; Ek werk, en wie kan dit keer? Vers 15 – Ek is YAHWEH, julle “Heilige; die Skepper van Israel, julle Koning.”
Kan jy die stem hoor? Hy sê – “ sodat julle kan WEET en My kan GLO en INSIEN dat dit Ek is …….” Kan jy enigsins verstaan presies wat Hy verklaar?
Volgens jou verklaring kan jy dit nie weet, sien of hoor of glo nie. By jou is dit, “SIEN IS GLO” en nie “GLO is SIEN nie”.

Dirk Albers

Mense, kan ons nie bietjie gesels oor die DA, en hulle nuutste manewales, en goggas, wat nou net uit hulle nuutste kongres uitgebroei het. Die feit bly steeds, dat die meerderheid blanke christene, stem vir die DA. Hulle jaag die multi-kulti reënboog-droom na, so met die Bybel onder die arm. Dit is presies waarom angus ook so populêr is. Kom ons probeer vir hierdie christene oortuig dat daar NOOIT vrede tussen wit en swart in hierdie land sal/kan wees nie. Moet nie eers die Bybel in die argument inbring nie, want dan rafel alles net uit in n bakleiery, en naam-noemery. Luister na wat die meerderheid swart, bloeddorstige, honger, gatvol barbare vir julle DAAGLIKS sê. Vergeet van jou oulike ” christen ” ousie en tuinbooi, en wat hulle elke dag vir jou sê, om seker te maak hulle kry salaris die einde van die maand. Hierdie christen DA stemmers hou vol dat hulle gelei word deur die Heilige Gees ? Watse “gees ” is dit, wat n HELE VOLK laat selfmoord pleeg ? Daarom het ek lank terug begin praat van die Apartheids-gees, of Gees van Apartheid. Hierdie is die Gees wat Vader Yahweh gestuur het om Sy WARE Volk te troos, en te onderskraag. En die Apartheids-gees sal jou NOOIT lei, of inspireer, om Volks-selfmoord te pleeg nie. ( Al het jy baie sondes en ongehoorsaamheid gepleeg. Vader tugtig Sy kinders, Hy laat hulle NIE selfmoord pleeg nie ! )

AntSan

Middag Dirk, Die gees wat hullelei is satan, ‘n self haat gees. Die gat in die binneste word gestop met kos, drank, mooi vere, duur karre en onsedelike gedrag maar nooit word die gat gevul nie. Die Gees waar na hul smag is net in die uitverkore nageslag van Jakob. MM het sy pastoor gees verruil vir politiek. Van een vuil spel na die ander. Zuma, wat die land gestroop het, se ondersteuners buite die hof, is die kerk! . Ps 135:3 Loof YHWH, want YHWH is goed; psalmsing tot eer van Sy NAAM, want die is lieflik! 4. Want YHWH het Jakob vir Hom uitverkies, Israel as Sy eiendom.

akarta

i hope you all see that the above parallels are incorrect……………………………. skripal family are not royal lineage, and the agent used novichok has not been proven even to be of the russian. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/03/porton-down-experts-unable-to-verify-precise-source-of-novichok

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/06/salisbury-poisoning-what-next-now-sergei-skripal-is-no-longer-critically-ill
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/06/sergei-skripal-no-longer-in-critical-condition-and-improving-rapidly

and was more of a false flag/propaganda war, to get in the USA, more in line with the side of UK.

understand that to draw parallels of the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria is rather off its mark (yet seems close on point).
the poor man of Europe aka the Ottoman Empire was in decline.
compared to now where there is incline of the the mad turk Erdogan’s Neo-Ottomanism
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/10/23/turkeys-religious-nationalists-want-ottoman-borders-iraq-erdogan/
http://www.wnd.com/2017/04/expert-turkeys-president-dreams-of-new-ottoman-empire/
http://www.israelhayom.com/2017/08/15/a-new-ottoman-empire/

part 1

akarta

part 2
EU, UK, USA are in decline.
Papal State is still wielding more subtle power than ever before. well they are trying to (place there mark) make Sunday LAW world wide with the use of (leftist) unions.
http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/taking-sunday-seriously-poland-leads-the-way
http://www.cesi.org/protect-the-work-free-sunday/
http://paramus.dailyvoice.com/politics/poll-paramus-mayor-wont-change-the-blue-laws/731965/
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-41025700
https://psmag.com/social-justice/growing-concern-over-climate-change-is-creating-interfaith-dialogue

also seeing some of you’s only focus on the OT (& not both witness ie OT & NT)

Turkey & Islam is the force Satan will use.. (his stormtroopers)
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. (Rev 20:4-8 KJV)

Salome

Dankie Adriaan. Ek skryf nooit, maar wil net sê ek hou dinge vanuit die buiteland dop. Dis kommerwekkend om te sien hoe ons mense redeneer en hoe hul oë en ore toe is. Ek vra myself soms af of hul getoor is? Yahweh is die Een wat Israel uitverkies het, Hy het afgesonderheid van Sy volk as wet gegee. Ek is hartseer om te sien dat soveel van my volksgenote nie respek het vir die wet van apartheid nie. Dankie vir julle wat die vaandel nog aan die brand hou, dankie vir ons Vader wat ons klein groepie behoue sal laat bly. Die kerklike invloed op ons volk is so duidelik in die wyse waarop hulle hierdie toedrag van sake beskou en dit is n skande om te dink dat ons “geestelike” leiers ons so in die steek gelaat het. Maar Sy belofte hou stand. Sy volk, die kinders van Adam sal daar wees tot die einde. Seënwense vir my broers en susters daar aan die onderpunt van Afrika. Alhoewel ek nie in liggaam daar is nie, sal my hart altyd daar wees asook my gebede. Mag Vader Sy hand van beskerming oor julle hou in hierdie dae van benoudheid.

Hinsie

Goeie naand,
Aanhaling uit Salome se skrywe “Ek vra myself soms af of hul getoor is?”
Aanhaling uit 2 Tes 2:11 “En daarom sal God hulle die krag van die dwaling stuur, om die leuen te glo,”
Lees gerus die hele hoofstuk.
Groetnis
Neem deel aan die gesprek

Dirk Albers

Hinsie, is dit nie opvallend dat Siener destyds gesê het : Dit is asof die mense SKILLE op hulle oë het ! En daarby moet ons ongelukkig ook kennis neem van wat hy verder gesê het, nl. : Die verraad sal verskriklik wees ! Ek het met n vorige pos verwys na whitenationnetwork.com. Hulle het moeilikheid opgetel met die vyande van die Boerevolk. Gelukkig is hulle weer terug, maar sonder die fasiliteit om poste te kan plaas. Weereens is dit ons vyande, wat gekla het oor wat die Patriotte daar te sê gehad het. Gelukkig gaan dit glo net n tydelike terugslag wees. Mense, julle moet dit waardeer, dat ons nog op vaandel.co.za met mekaar kan gesels en gedagtes uitruil. Die satan, en sy onderdane, hardloop rond soos brullende leeus, om kennis te verberg, en die Adamiet te vernietig !

Johann Cronje

Ongemaklike waarhede (1)

‘n Aantal waarhede wat ons ongemaklik gaan laat wonder of die pad van geloof wat ons bewandel, wel ten volle of gedeeltelik korrek is, al dan nie!

Sou enige nugter gelowige die volgende getuienes van YAHWEH ignoreer, wat die RKK se leiding heeltemal verdoem ? – “Ek, Ek is YAHWEH, en daar is “geen Heiland” buiten My nie.” (Jes 43:11)

Maar die mense verkies valse profete / predikers en dogmas met meer positiewe boodskappe. Doof en blind na die waarheid – hoor en kyk, maar luister en sien nie!

Die reslutaat! – Jeremia 8:9-15 – Die slim mense kom in die skande, is verslae en verstrik. Kyk, hulle het die woord van YAHWEH verwerp, en watter wysheid sou hulle hê? Daarom sal Ek hulle vroue aan ander gee, hulle landerye aan veroweraars; want van die kleinste tot die grootste maak hulle almal onregverdige wins; van die profeet tot die priester pleeg hulle almal bedrog. En hulle genees die verbreking van die dogter van my volk op die maklikste manier deur te sê: Vrede, vrede! — terwyl daar geen vrede is nie. Hulle kom in die skande, omdat hulle gruwel bedryf het, tog skaam hulle hul nie in die minste nie en weet nie om te bloos nie. Daarom sal hulle val onder die wat val; en die tyd van hulle besoeking sal hulle struikel, sê YAHWEH. Saamskraap, wegraap sal Ek hulle, spreek YAHWEH. Daar is geen druiwe aan die wingerdstok en geen vye aan die vyeboom nie, ja, die blare verdor. So het Ek ook vir hulle dié bestel wat dwarsoor hulle sal gaan. Waarom bly ons sit? Kom bymekaar, en laat ons in die versterkte stede ingaan en daar omkom; want YAHWEH onse God laat ons omkom, en Hy laat ons gifwater drink, omdat ons teen YAHWEH gesondig het. Hulle wag op vrede, maar daar is niks goeds nie; op ’n tyd van beterskap, maar kyk, daar is verskrikking.

Johann Cronje

Ongemaklike waarhede (2)

Jeremia 23:16-17 – So sê YAHWEH van die leërskare : Luister NIE na die woorde van die profete (predikers en leermeesters) wat vir julle profeteer NIE; hulle vervul julle met ydele verwagtinge; gesigte uit hul eie hart verkondig hulle, nie uit die mond van YAHWEH nie. Hulle sê gedurig aan my veragters: “Die HERE” het gespreek: Julle sal vrede hê; en aan elkeen wat wandel in die verharding van sy hart, sê hulle: Geen onheil sal oor julle kom nie

Psalm 86:11- 13 – Leer my, YAHWEH, u weg: ek sal in u waarheid wandel; verenig my hart tot die vrees van u NAAM. YAHWEH, my God, ek wil U loof met my hele hart en u NAAM vir ewig eer; want u goedertierenheid is groot oor my, en U het my siel uit die doderyk diep daaronder gered.

akarta

part 3
& just as with the fall of jerusalem after OUR LORD JESUS was done with HIS work. you had the Roman Empire and their use of people me’gog look at battle of Magnesia aka Manisa in Turkey.
also conforming its turkey

12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;
13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan’s seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.
14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. (Rev 2:12-14 KJV)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pergamon its in turkey, also confirming islam also note the black stone of mecca, was originally from Turkey, the cult of cybele (men who dressed as women) moved it to ROME & then later in time it was moved to mecca.

akarta

part 4 also note Nebuchadnezzar was a foreshadowing of ISLAM with his Idol Daniel 3 ie
4 Then an herald cried aloud, To you it is commanded, O people, nations, and languages,
5 That at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king hath set up:
6 And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth shall the same hour be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.
7 Therefore at that time, when all the people heard the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and all kinds of musick, all the people, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshipped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up. (Dan 3:4-7 KJV)

also note in Rev 2 one finds mentioned a white stone, note there was also the BLACK STONE and its linked to Pergamos.

akarta

part 5
note the mad turk plays a major part in WW3 as the siener foretold.
sidenote Pope and Erdogan speak & agree of status of Jerusalem – home to sites holy to the Muslim, Jewish and Christian religions – as part of the peace process.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-turkey/erdogan-and-pope-discuss-jerusalem-as-scuffles-break-out-near-vatican-idUSKBN1FP0ZY
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/05/pope-francis-gives-peace-symbol-gift-president-erdogan-turkish/

(2 days later) plans are ready being made (Operation Olive Branch)
http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/02/07/general-erdogans-first-war/

on the 8th turkey starts air bombing within northern syria

20th Ground forces enter northern syria

lets remember Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. (its happening)

so enjoy………

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